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Plan To Kill Sharks Near Beaches

Posted September 28, 2012 1:54 PM

From BBC News - Science & Environment:

Western Australia says sharks posing an imminent threat to beachgoers can be killed, in a raft of measures announced following several fatal attacks.

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09/28/2012 3:15 PM

So it's OK to kill sharks becasue they get in the way of leisure, but not OK to kill whales because you want to eat them ?

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09/29/2012 2:13 PM

OK, I'm game for an argument. Care to explain why that is OT ?

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09/29/2012 4:09 PM

Just spotted this thread in rolling news and, bizarrely enough dropped in to say much the same thing - why do we think we have the right to kill any animal that gets in our way? Sharks, badgers, geese, wolves, elephants, tigers...

Have removed your OT.

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09/30/2012 3:07 AM

Thank you ER.

You clearly see the point which anon rater did not. Jumping in with guns blazing before sorting the issue of what the problem is makes little sense.

As terrible as the recent number of human deaths is, there's nothing to suggest that killing sharks would solve the 'problem'. The original article also manges to completely fail in addressing any of the current research into why sharks attack, or the latest news on shark repellent.

Another factor ignored is shark tourism - 'chumming' the water with bait so that people can sit in a cage to view the things. That's a bit like training sharks to associate humans with dinner.

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09/30/2012 10:19 AM

or the latest news on shark repellent.

To cover the Western Australian coast line!!!!........or even the suburban coastline of Perth............even if surfers carried it personally.......the distanceces that these surfers cover are large and repellant would probably be useless. I might also add that research has and still is being carried out, but as Hans Hass once said "sharks in Australian waters do not obey the rules"...............and mind you some of those surfers need a brain as well.

It does'nt worry me, I made a pact with the sharks many years ago......."I don't swim in their sea and they don' swim in my beer"

One thing of course that shouldn't occur is the wholsale slaughter of sharks, particularly the white pointers

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09/30/2012 11:04 AM

I'm not fully clued up on it, but some recent stuff suggest that rotted shark (talk about irony) is effective and could maybe be used in a gel form on surfboards etc. I can't back that up offhand. There's also some stuff on the kind of kit surfers wear ('don't make me look like a seal' type stuff).

As a winging pom this is way outside my daily experience, but I question the 'kill the *****' approach. The linked article mentions that years of serious incidents tend to come and go. There's no evidence that culling sharks will work. On top of that, I'm of the opinion that it was their playground first. I'm well aware of Europe butchering species because people thought they had a right - were I born in that time I'd argue with them too. Not to say 'my view is right', but more to say 'hang on a mo and consider'.

It's off kilter, but have you seen the film Soul Surfer ? Many points come across in that film, but the one that sticks in my head is that she (I forget her name) seemed to accept that the shark was simply doing it's thing. The filming of that was terrific (surfer using a green armband for colour separation overlay), and I'm sure that like most 'reality' films it didn't portray all, but it's a good flick all the same.

The question (it wasn't even a question) as posted does not directly address alternatives. I'm no tree-hugger, but the posting reads like readnecks on hooch. I'll keep subscribed here because I want to know Australians take on this. My earlier comment was jest, a bit of baiting to get more input - I'd like to see what Australian members of CR4 think. Everybody's view is valid, but Oz members can give us direct experience and digest of the view over there,.

A fly landed in my beer a few days ago. I held the little ****** until it spat every little drop back ! Buzzed into the house, annoyed my wife, nicked the dogs food, even looked like it crapped in the sugar bowl. Cheeky bugger even sat on Mrs K's toothbrush. Then it went for my beer...jeez there are limits .

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09/30/2012 11:44 AM

I'm not fully clued up on it........

You and I both Kris.........I spend most of my free time chasing up the changes in my chosen profession,that's when I get time with all the bs paper work that's required by the government after a recent change in student enrolments, etc.........of course never for the better...........I think that they should be fed to the sharks!!!!

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09/30/2012 12:02 PM

I just love these blogs when there isn't even a question ! I'm really hard pushed as to who I'd want as shark bait first - lawyers, bankers, human res.....Ding...that's perfect - Human Resources. Give the critters an hors d'oeuvre first .

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10/03/2012 5:41 AM

I agree lawyers first........my experience......having paid a lawyer $33 000 I received $250 000...WOW.......however the lawyer's bill on top of the $33 000 was $200 000...........not bad. I tell you what. I could have fed him to the sharks, gladly.

I think this is what is called justice

If you ever need a good lawyer I could put in touch with him!!!

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10/03/2012 6:22 AM

Aw, c'mon, sharks can be a bit naughty but feeding the poor buggers lawyers is a bit nasty !

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10/03/2012 7:12 AM

The sharks wouldn't eat them anyway....

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10/03/2012 9:17 AM

Perhaps they could be chopped up just a little and seasoned wth galic salt........belay that last order, determined to be a waste of garlic salt...........just chop them up and if the sharks still don't eat them maybe the crabs and lobsters could have a feed. After all they clean all the s**t off the sea bed.

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10/01/2012 9:44 AM

The chances of getting bitten by a shark are the same as dying from a bee sting in the UK. BBC Radiio 4 programme "More or Less" worked it out in the last series.

If I remember/have time I'll link when I get home, but a google search on BBC more or less should find it...

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10/01/2012 10:08 AM

..........and chances of winning the lottery!!!

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09/29/2012 1:40 PM

Wanted dead or alive....

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10/02/2012 12:22 AM

One day I was with my Father-in-Law in his garage in the mountains of North Georgia.

He pulled down two shoe boxes and while untying the strings holding the tops on he said, "Here, maybe you can think of something to do with these."

In both shoe boxes were dozens of squirrel tails.

He had put up bird feeders and got mad when the squirrels raided them so he started shooting the squirrels and cutting off their tales before burying them.

After about a year he quit when he realized that no matter how many squirrels you shoot off your bird feeder, another squirrel happening by will look at it and say, "Hey! Look at that bird feeder full of food with no squirrel eating any of it!"

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10/02/2012 3:18 AM

Just goes to show that resistance is futile . I'm sure that the more squirrel-proof a feeder is, the more squirrels seem to like raiding it.

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10/02/2012 4:08 AM

The tails were made up into a lovely fur stole. I got it in the sale at LynDoor Upmarket Clothing Inc.

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10/02/2012 12:02 PM

Can't be bothered to go ouside right now and take a picture, but my black box for recycling has a cat picture on it........

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10/03/2012 4:02 AM

My next door neighbour has squibbles on her black bin....

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That'll be for keeping that cats in.....

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02/04/2014 8:01 AM

..............And guess what...............it is now 2014 and they are at it again in Western Australia - culling sharks.

I will never have the problem of being attacked by a shark (or at least those sharks with fins).

I can say never because many years ago I made a pact with the sharks, that being: "I don't swim in their sea and they don't swim in my beer".........I can say that this arrangement is working fine!!!!

See! Sharks do swim in glasses of alcoholic beverages, but we have that understanding and trust in each other.

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02/05/2014 5:53 AM

Oz sharks probably understand BYOB (or at least a few tinnies)

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What's this...........a few tinnies ............at the very least a slab!!!

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02/06/2014 6:58 PM

Consider it a done -deal.

If I ever make it to Oz, I'm not sure I'll be sober long enough to see the sights ! Just joking - I wouldn't know where to start with visiting people and stuff.

I just have to do this, and I know it's maybe incomprehensibly (see, I can't even spell it) stupid, but I want to at least see my maker saying I have visited a pie-cart. Every animal there is cute, but lethal. The Landscape is cute, but lethal. Go for a drive and it can be lethal.

Apart from Australian people, it sound like the land of death or riches.

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It might be the reason you meet your maker...

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03/12/2014 9:50 AM

I'm thinking if they were to play

Sadistik Exekution - Blakk Mass Murder

on continuous replay on underwater speakers the surfers would have the beach all to themselves.

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