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"New" vs Conventional Engineering

Posted August 07, 2007 9:51 AM

Engineering school teaches that conventional engineering is based on physical laws that are described by equations and dimensionally homogeneous. But what if a new theory of engineering could show that problems are solved with the variables separated rather than combined? You may want to read more about the concept of nonlinear engineering phenomena and judge for yourself.

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08/07/2007 9:14 PM

From what I read it seems they are explaining the reason many projects have been over built to absorb the changes in the system not only with time but in pressures and stresses.

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08/08/2007 12:38 AM

Engineers (with degrees) have a range of mathematical techniques and sufficient experience to produce useful answers to many real world questions. Luckily many problems can be massaged so linear equations are useful but if that's not appropriate then there are lots of non linear techniques available. In short, there's nothing new in the concept of N.L. engineering.

I started reading the 240 page tract, but after only 40 pages, l concluded there's nothing useful in it for me. The author seems to be pointlessly splitting some very fine hairs eg He doesn't like the term resistance (since there can't be a ratio between V & I because they're not the same thing) but his first example says "the behaviour of the component is given by v = 5.6 I". Life's to short. Jeff

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08/08/2007 11:01 PM

After several attempts and system lock-ups the book was downoaded and saved to hard drive. Although it contains all the usual credentials, ISBN, Library of Congress, etc. it is NOT Listed by Amazon.com.

As a long time skeptic I am led to believe that the work is neither creditable or salable and therefore is of questionable value.

It is reminiscent of the NEW THEORY OF THERMODYNAMICS. Developed by a professor of ME at a prestigious university up east. It was published in "Power Engineering" without any peer review. It was soon shown that he had merely turned some things around and rearranged equations to make it look radically new and different. He was roundly criticized and discredited as being unprofessional.

Perhaps the author is seeking acceptance of his 'different' ideas so that he can profit from the effort expended in creating the file.

It appears rather obvious that there was no professional nor academic connections and or reviews. Until such time as I can be convinced otherwise it will be filed under "Interesting But of Doubtful Value>"

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08/09/2007 10:42 PM

From all the indications immediately available when the previos post was written I was convinced that the author had written a bogus work and was seeking attention. There has only one free text book previously available on the web. It was a two or three old edition of a legitimate text on Heat Transfer by recognized authorities from a well known university. An extreme difference.

My apologies for misleading anyone as to the value of The New Engineering, TNE.

A search of the internet and the bookstores will reveal a large number of text books on the subject of Linear Theory of 'This' or 'That' which is of course indicates the validity of the free volume of TNE.

Unless one is prepared to invest the time and effort to absorb the material in TNE it is not likely that they can present a realistic evaluation.

Anyone who is not nearing retirement and currently engaged in Engineering work of any kind should find it worth while to at least read TNE and then study the subject if they feel it is of personal value.

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08/10/2007 5:23 AM

Hands up I haven't read the paper...

But having read the thread and the title....

'Non Linear Engineering Phenomena'...

Of course engineering is largely nonlinear!

We reduce and simplify it to linearity to make it manageable...

Non linear temperature compensation...hmmm

Let me see, shall i try and build a matched non linear amplifier? or shall I write a simple bit of software to reduce it to 3 secions each of which is linear? Or shall I have a lookup table?

(Ok guys..don't shoot down my simplistic approaches..I know there are many other ways...!)

As someone alread said most eloquently...'Life's too short'

Del

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08/11/2007 12:11 PM

I too have an idea how to do this. How about teaching engineers to use partial derivatives?

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