To Storm or Not to Storm…Area 51?

Why would any American want to divulge their own military's secrets, is beyond me....

They should arrest the organizers right now as enemy agents...which they probably are....If your idea of fun is threatening your own military, you are dumber than a box of rocks, and probably should be kept in jail for your own protection...

...dumber than a box of rocks...

I'd say dumber than at least two boxes of rocks...

...."It includes the claim that about 80 percent of the male Roman Catholic clergy members who work at the Vatican, around the pope, are gay. It contends that the more showily homophobic a Vatican official is, the more likely he belongs to that crowd, and that the higher up the chain of command you go, the more gays you find. And not all of them are celibate. Not by a long shot."...

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/15/opinion/vatican-gay-priests.html

The confessionals are just recruiting booths....haha

That wasn't JE's point.

Secrets are secrets, it's like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're going to get....

that's a little uncalled for...init??? how I am reading your comment is an insult to my faith as I am a Roman Catholic. there is nothing hidden and all documents can be read. did you not see the film made by Mel Gibson The Passion of the Christ? did you know that Mel Gibson used those so-called "hidden documents" to create that film? I bet you didn't. if you really want to "storm" something, maybe it should be your own conscience.

I apologize for the lack of sensitivity.

From what i understand the (open)n archives of the Vatican are not very open at all.

One must apply to look at manuscript, be approved and only look at the small amount of daily material that they are granted to view.

What I'd be interested in doing is actually looking through the archives. The miles and miles ..and miles. Not the bit that may be used to prop up the existing theology, but the collected information that nobody would know to ask for or look for.

I just want my library card to work there, but it won't ,and you nor I will ever have access to any of it.

Keep up the faith, but have good questions and fight for you rights to access openly available information.

Tongue in cheek!!

Some guy called Julian Assange used his library card to get and share some information and it now seems that he will suffer a public flogging for that.

There are some items that just don't need to be shared.

There are many outside your great country that would have the same craving that you seem to have for one set of archives, but focused on your country's archives that even you as a citizen will never see.

Regarding area 51, maybe that's just a lemming trap. Once you have one, you have them all.

Hypatia, Librarian at the Great Library of Alexandria

Here is an account of my favorite dead female librarian. My contention is that her murder was a hoax perpetrated to cover up her kidnapping and enslavement by the Roman Empire. The Great Library at Alexandria had been sacked and burned to cover up the theft of a great number of documents which could expose the real history of the usurpation of a new popular religion by the Romans. They needed to eliminate the confusion and conflicts caused by too many of their cities worshiping too many diverse pagan Gods. So, they picked a monotheistic religion to supplant all the chaos and allow a uniform control of their far-flung populations through a state sponsored religion. They had hidden the evidence of the actual history and they had convened the Council of Nicea in 325 to publish the canonical version of the new uniform faith. They had banished a great volume of sacred texts (now called apocrypha) from the new official Roman Bible.

They still needed someone smart to manage all of the heretical material they had removed from public access when they "burned" the Great Library at Alexandria. That someone, IMHO, was Hypatia. I believe they secretly held her and all of the context for the apocrypha incarcerated together and eventually created the Secret Vatican Library so their scholars could know the truth to be able to synthesize the "State's version of the truth" more credibly. They did this in a tremendously effective way since few have known the "rest of the story" prior to its exposure today. I posit that Hypatia was ostensibly scraped apart with oyster shells and her body burned so that the corpse could only be identified with her clothing. This great intellect was then held against her will to support the scholarship within the church that could present a credible narrative regarding Paul, a Roman infiltrator into the apostles, Constantine an ostensibly converted Roman emperor, and so forth leading to the establishment of the Holy Roman Catholic Church with its Council of Nicea sourced canonical Holy Bible. Voila, the Roman State now had control of a uniform, manageable official religion with which to mind control their sprawling empire. You will note that the bulk of the New Testament is a collection of letters from Paul to various geographies dictating how Roman Christian life should be lived. Notably his is the quote which I paraphrase as "your leaders are divinely chosen, therefore you should obey them without question."

Others who may have come to similar conclusions as mine may have withheld their publication since it is within the power of the church to destroy the hidden cache of documents stolen from the Great Library at Alexandria. I do not accept responsibility for the evil acts of others and therefore if public knowledge of these suspicions prompts the destruction of priceless knowledge, then the curse falls on those implementing that destruction. To them, I say, realize that there may, despite your every effort, come a time when the truth will be known, and compounding your crimes will only amplify your inevitable punishment. Note that individual Roman Catholic believers are generally not responsible for this evil and may well be good people. It is merely another proof that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. This is, however, a profound, and I would say compelling, argument against globalism, international law, international corporations, universal religions, and everything else which claims some permanent, universal exemption against limitations, failure, and corruption. Diversity is your friend, in government as in agriculture. Mono cultures amplify disease and increase the probability of extinction.

As far as the storming of Area 51 it is potentially fatal Brownian movement without any significant redeeming probability of improving the human condition. Seek the truth where it IS, not where it once WAS. It could easily be as idiotically tragic as declaring "gun free zones"(aka, shooting galleries for the criminally insane.) Does anybody believe that even if they have left something at Area 51 that it will still be there for a scheduled "storming" ? Someone out there has a thought process which I would characterize as ridiculous, and imprudently theatrical. They get my Darwin award, or at least they will get it, posthumously. Hey, let's go swim with the box jellyfish swarm ! You go right ahead !

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thewildotter

There is every possibility that the archives could include contents from the great library of Alexandria as well as pre flood work.

I'd like to get through a couple doors at the Smithsonian too

Great points.. to research

I've been to area 51.

Four things I noticed

1. There is no small talk or shooting the shit.

2. Like Joe Friday, just the facts, nothing but the facts.

3. Like 1's and 0's, everything is yes or no, on or off, authorized or unauthorized.

4. Like James Bond, every one is licensed to kill.

What business does crap like this have in a supposedly scientific post? Next you'll be pushing the climate change con job.

YEAH! THAT"S RIGHT.If you want some real food for scientific thought,think about this:

"Gravity is a myth..the world sucks!".. Z.V.Untstein (R.I.P)

If the military had any sense of humour they'd arrange for a few people dressed as aliens to run & hide as soon as they'd been spotted by the invading masses.

Well, actually they did start the rumor that the balloon found was an alien spaceship....so there's that...

The military didn't want citizens to panic thinking they were under attack from the Japanese...even though it was a laughingly pathetic attack...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incendiary_balloon

Why yes they should storm it. The herd needs culling.

They could herd them off to Mars on a few BFR"s.. everyone would be fiiiine.