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Understanding the Toy Scare

Posted January 01, 2008 8:13 AM by Sharkles

Recent headlines warning of "toxic toys" have consumers worried that seemingly harmless plastic dolls may be leaking lead. To understand the role metal compounds play in plastics, the Vinyl Institute created a report. Lead and other heavy metals operate as heat stabilizers, preventing vinyl from degradation. Read current regulations and initiatives surrounding PVC.

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01/02/2008 9:21 AM

Why would anyone make a toy out of PVC in the first place? All concerns about lead aside, PVC leaches chlorine whenever the surface is cut. Whenever I machine PVC I have to clean the rust of of the tool holders, spindle, and HSS cutters that develops dut to the chlorine fumes comming of of the plastic.

I am often apalled at the ingnorance about plastics by a public that seems to lump all plastics into the same box as though they were all the same.

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01/02/2008 9:44 AM

Why use PVC - the answer is quite simple - It is the cheapest to use and work with.

Until such time as industry is forced to work to the best interests of the end user in mind - that will never happen, bottom line is the bottom dollar, all else is marketing - we will have to regulate them into producing safe products (remember that at one time lead based dyes were used for candies for their brighter colours, low cost and sales appeal)

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01/03/2008 1:35 PM

I love your signature! It's amazing how many people don't get it.

But if one has never been in the computer industry, I suppose they deserve a break. Still, in this day and age?

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01/02/2008 10:57 AM

Lead in toys is very serious and very sad. I can't imagine that my parents had to be so vigilant with watching everything that I ate, played with or wore to make sure it wouldn't hurt me.

Anyway, I make sure to visit www.leadtoyrecalls.com to stay on top of the latest recalled products.

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01/02/2008 12:21 PM



CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL THE KIDS WHO WERE BORN IN THE

1930's 40's, 50's, 60's and 70's !!

First, we survived being born to mothers who smoked and/or drank while they carried us.

They took aspirin, ate blue cheese dressing, tuna from a can, and didn't get tested for diabetes.

Then after that trauma, our baby cribs were covered with bright colored lead-based paints.

We had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, doors or cabinets and when we rode our bikes, we had no helmets, not to mention, the risks we took hitchhiking .

We drank water from the garden hose and NOT from a bottle.

We shared one soft drink wi th four friends, from one bottle and NO ONE actually died from this.

We ate cakes, white bread and real butter and drank pop with sugar in it, but we weren't overweight because......

WE WERE ALWAYS OUTSIDE PLAYING!!

We would leave home in the morning and play all day, as long as we were back when the streetlights came on.


No one was able to reach us all day. And we were O.K.


We would spend hours building our go-carts out of scraps and then ride down the hill, only to find out we forgot the brakes. After running into the bushes a few times, we learned to solve the problem

We did not have Playstations, Nintendo's, X-boxes, no video games at all, no 99 channels on cable, no video tape movies, no surround sound, no cell phones, no personal computers, no Internet or Internet chat rooms..........WE HAD FRIENDS and we went outside and found them!

We fell out of trees, got cut, broke bones and teeth and there were no
lawsuits from these accidents .

We ate worms and mud pies made from dirt, and the worms did not live in us forever.

We made up games with sticks and tennis balls and although we were told it would happen, we did not put out very many eyes. < /P>

We rode bikes or walked to a friend's house and knocked on the door or rang the bell, or just yelled for them!

Football teams had trials and not everyone made the team. Those who didn't had to learn to deal with disappointment. Imagine that!!

The idea of a parent bailing us out if we broke the law was unheard of.They actually sided with the law!

This generation has produced some of the best risk-takers, problem solvers and inventors ever!

The past 50 years have been an explosion of innovation and new ideas.

We had freedom, failure, success and responsibility, and we learned

HOW TO
DEAL WITH IT ALL!

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01/02/2008 4:58 PM

Well said Guest! I'm one of those folks that survived (so far) 6 decades and counting (and still healthy).

In my 20's I worked as an auto mechanic doing brake jobs (asbestos galore). MY compatriots, and I, prided ourselves on how fast we could do a 4 wheel brake job: hone brake cylinders, replace shoes, and get the vehicle back on the ground; ready to drive. My best time was 9 minutes. Blew asbestos around like no tomorrow. Did a lot of brake shoes back then. We even riveted our own asbestos onto the shoes (riveted shoes was considered better than bonded).

"I was good Ma, really good".

Not to take anything away from "needed" safety precautions, but I agree, things have gone way over the deep end in my humble opinion.

Kids NEED to have more rough and tumble!

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01/02/2008 2:00 PM

lead is bad, and am sure there are cases, but I wonder if any surveys were done to the effects from having lead in the paint(from pre 1970) , and the number of people effected by it?

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01/03/2008 12:00 PM

< A re-posted reply from cr3 >

There is no need for any significant amount of lead in any children's toy's.

I am however, shocked by the ever decreasing quality of children's toys. It is also shocking to see big names such as Spiderman, Matchbox and countless others which are licensing their name to anything that sells. Some of which literally disgusts me in it's sub-par or nonexistent workmanship.

All in all, there is no quality to speak of. All toys are highly disposable, intermittently functional and consistently inconsistent.

The Tonka name is an exception to the rule. As is John Deere who makes a good number of fun replica toys. I also do well with Nerf and some of the Euro toys. And the kids and I really enjoy the well made German Playmobile toys. (It helps to have a close cousin who manages an independent toy store - Terra Toys)

I have many children in my life. It is sad that I am at a disadvantage in trying to share the joy of having a toy I was given when I was 4 which is now sitting on a shelf, well worn but still functional some 34 years later. In fact my 4 and 2 year old boys have toys from when I was their ages - and those toys aren't about to quit even now.

There is little name recognition any longer. There is less nostalgia. There are more batteries and beeps. All in all there seems to be much less American pride in the near extinct American Toy.

If it is true that one can not judge a book by it's cover, then I suggest it doubly so of toys. "One should not judge a toy by it's box"

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01/03/2008 1:40 PM

toys no-a-days seems are no longer heirlooms, but are considered disposable

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01/03/2008 2:31 PM

I agree cr3.

It is sad but it's a sign of the times.

Two years ago I built my nieces and nephews a minature set of kitchen furnature, all out of MDF. Washer & dryer had a tub (metal basket) that spun on a Lazy-Susan bearing. Really came out nice. Afterward, I saw some similar kid's furnature at Pottery Barn.

What I built, I'm sure, cost a good bit more than the commercial version but that stuff didn't have the love, detail, and attention as mine.

The kids loved it and I loved making it.

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01/03/2008 5:40 PM

All the agreeing everyone is giving is nice; but what of the 'good answer' competition.

Pleas see the inert gas and metal response...never-mind. Tail tucked, I return to my coffee.

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