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Wherefore Art Thou Wind Turbines?

Posted March 08, 2008 8:37 AM

Wind power is clean and renewable, but some say wind turbines don't belong on land or near coasts. One alternative removes wind turbines from sight by putting them far out to sea where winds are stronger and steadier. Complicating factors include deep water installation, lengthy power cable runs back to shore, and high seas. Could this be the future of wind power?

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Re: Wherefore Art Thou Wind Turbines?

03/14/2008 10:47 AM

Why put them far out to sea? What's wrong with putting them on top of high rises? The wind usually blows harder there than it does at ground level and they'd be out of sight. The world needs to think "out of the box" for energy resources.

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03/14/2008 11:22 AM

We need to get low priced electricity world wide and soon. Long power lines make no sense. We should make the power as close as possible to where we will use it. That would be efficient. TLG has a 5 foot diameter wind mill that belongs in a gazillion back yards and right now.

Here is another project that needs to be developed www.solarthermalelectric.org asap. Once we are making too much electricity then we need to turn it into hydrogen for our cars. The Ethanol from corn thing is worse than a bad thing, driving food prices up.

A scroll pump mass produced and re-engineered into a scroll motor to drive generators with refrigerant would be a very good thing. Low grade waste heat could be used and we would not need new coal power plants.

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03/15/2008 9:36 AM

How about pluging in a hydrogen pump when electric power is used least and produce. Small hydrogen pumps produce 1 or 2 liters and hour. That more than enough for a short trips to work and back. Refuel at home.

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03/16/2008 8:18 PM

Where can a person get a small hydrogen pump? All of it is part of the answer.

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08/02/2008 7:49 AM

Hi there,

Yes indeed, where art thou turbines? I`m looking for a wind mill that could perhaps generate some powers for lights etc.. I read your bit about TLG make a 5ft wind mil, can you perhaps help me find some companies that sell these wind mils? I also think that solar is the way forward. Cheers

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03/16/2008 5:40 PM

I as a guy don't mind at all to see working things. I really don't think machines are ugly. Civilization depends on excess energy. Wind power is part of the energy production toolbox and ought to be put where it is a best producer for the money spent upfront.

The incredible potential of trough tide power for low impact power generation might be better for close in, and overcome the insane objections to views of vital machinery.

I am not that great a fan of wind turbines when they somehow kill nice birds, and lament glass skyscrapers for the same reasons. The bird deaths associated with lighthouses are astounding and diminished the enjoyment of the job I imagine.

Still we have to have some electricity and there is a place for wind turbines in the system that can't be ignored. Far out where the winds are reliable would recommend them to be put there, and the power distribution companies just face it as an infrastructure expense justified by the regularity of generation to lay the lines.

Putting the tide pool generators closer in where the tides flow is probably the way to go in integrating these technologies.

Put those Wind Generating Stations far out to sea, and you are likely to be enabled to build a little port out there if you hire the right architect.

Far as I know architecture is the first art.

Though really I think drawing is first, but architects consider drawing a foundation for the realized art.

A New History of Art by Paul Johnson is stuck up and elitist, but still a good art history book.

Anyway we need to put the wind generators where they work best, and that is that.

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03/29/2008 7:12 PM

Whoa! How typical is this? We need to get off of fossil fuels but we don't want to have those big damn towers with their blades turning in our sight. Don't you know? It will make our property value go down... What a bunch of hacks! These are like the people here in San Diego complaining about the Marine Base making TOO much noise. The helo's can only fly in certain areas now because they make "too much noise and have devalued the area." The same thing is being said/done with our "international airport - the home owners that live around the area complain about noise. Hmmmm, the funny thing is that these airfields were there before any of these dwellings were built. I would have to say buyer beware. And stop CRYING

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04/07/2008 1:00 AM

There was a small neighborhood west of Fort Lauderdale airport. As there was a waterway adjacent to it, people started to build bigger and nicer houses there. They started to complain about the noise from the airport. Years of fighting went on until the homeowners won. The airport bought every one of those homes and dissolved the neighborhood. Now all of the area is commercial and industrial. Lots of well taxed businesses to pay for those hoses. Be careful what you ask for. You might get your wish.

For about five years it looked like a ghost town. It still bothers me to drive through the area. And the people that did not object and that had lived there for thirty years, they left along with the new complainers.

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