'Earth Hour' goes global

The truth about climate and carbon nowadays is like some theory watched by different people in total darkness. They all have an opinion as what, where and why it is but nobody really can see and certainly none knows for sure.

I think this earth hour is a good thing but for the wrong reasons.

I WANT A DARK SKY FOR ASTRONOMY. So I welcome this and it should be every night of every day for all hours that the idiotic lights are switched off.

Silly, they are in the dark about climate change and now will really be in the dark. I think it will backfire and the criminals and young punks will use it to hurt people. If only they could get to the nuts responsible.

The dark sky movement does not propose to put us all in the dark indiscriminately, we want light to be treated as any other form of pollution and as such want it to be cut down where the light is definitely wasted anyway and as such just lighting up the night sky.

Most street lighting waste more than 50% of their emitted light in non beneficial directions. The same with other functional lighting which is often pointed upwards like in lit up buildings. We would like these forms of lighting to be banned as they are the main culprit of light pollution and do nothing more for the intended purpose than a properly designed lighting system would do.

Some cities have now agreed to review the street light situation and some have already vowed to change their lights into sky friendly ones next time they need new ones or replacements. Good start from a small minority, it all has to start somewhere.

Sorry to rave on about this inappropriately, it is one of my biggest pet hates.

Well at least the advertising campaign worked well .

They are full of praise for all the cities that participated but in all the photos you can still see many lights pointed the wrong way, why are they not addressing that. I know you should give positive critisism and all that pc bullshit, like marking with a red pen is not allowed in schools for it makes the poor tot feel a loser, well that is what it is so why not say it.

I am sure it saved a large amount of electricity but it could easily be surpased by logical lighting all year round instead of just one hour to celebrate earth hour. Did anybody compare the money spent on earth hour to what was saved? I think you would fall of your chair if you did. Utter nonsense and the whole thing is just another politically motivated spin.

I will not even say sorry for my sour look on things, I think it is sickening.

I was going to raise "Tosser Hour" a topic, so now I can just respond.

I wish the green fools would actually bother to learn something before arranging stupid stunts. Turning off lights for an hour merely results in power stations venting steam. Turboalternators can't be shut down and steam must be maintained to carry the bump when the "Tosser Hour" ends.

Another pet of theirs is the conversion to gas hot water service instead of electric storage. It is just as poorly researched as "Tosser Hour", off peak useage pays for the equipment that must be kept rotating and keeping real power flowing helps prevent the distribution system going into leading PF in the middle of the night. It is already a problem for long country feeders.

LP Gas is too expensive, too dirty and puts the pollution source at or in residences. The use of heatpump technology improves efficiency be a factor of 4. Controlled tariff is worth about 7c per KWH and timed offpeak about 5c. Efficiency is the key, both at ther point of end use and at the point of supply. Delivering LPG by truck door to door isn't efficient yet it gets promoted by the green wierdos and their dumb politicians.

Ever stop to think why Coal is the enemy? Think back to the mid nineties when the oil companies sold their coal assets ( Shell to Anglo, Arco to Rio Tinto), just a year before that Shell were bleating how they were going to be the biggest in the seaborne trade and knock BHP off their perch.

But it looks as if we are on our own so no good answers points for good answers I am afraid.

If there was an opt out option of those god damn "good" answer points system I would do it. Rarely do you see a point given for a really good answer, just the hyped ones get votes.

Sorry wrong thread.

I am mostly with you my friend. Green is not about the colour anymore.