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Video: Stealth Bomber Crashes

Posted June 06, 2008 11:43 AM

From Wired: Top Stories:

You don't see this often: Here is just-released video of a Stealth bomber crash that occurred last February in Guam.

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06/07/2008 9:00 PM

Lemme guess: the guy who filmed that mess also designed the software.

And the sensors.

Your tax dollars - $1.4 billion of them per plane - at work.

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06/07/2008 11:13 PM

I don't know but if he was the one who designed the video tracking software It's a wounder our missiles ever reach their destination.

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06/08/2008 12:36 AM

"It's a wonder our missiles ever reach their destination."

Oh, you mean they do?

For some odd reason I've always had the impression that those SCUDs were fired by somebody else...

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06/08/2008 12:40 AM

Shhhh the bad guys might be listening. Nope just the MIBs

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06/08/2008 11:52 AM

It looks to me as if the pilot was trying to beat the 'anti stall' software and it seemed to hit some sort of lamp post or pylon...that's a great idea let's have big posts right alongside the runway, hey we could dig ditches across the runway too, that'd make it more exciting!

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06/08/2008 1:13 PM

No kidding! I wonder if they share that airstrip with U-2s?

U-2s drop their wing gear on take-off and so when they land they're basically "bicycles with wings" with only their centerline gear available for touchdown. With all that mess adjacent to the runway, one slight dip of a wing and they're hosed!!!

I watched a U-2 land at Edwards AFB, in California. I had never seen one land and had no idea how it was done. At first I didn't see the plane coming in.

At that time I was driving on a road parallel to the airstrip, and suddenly I saw this souped-up pickup truck hauling ass down the runway in the same direction I was going. I'm sure he was going well over 100 MPH!

Even weirder was the big burly guy strapped to the back of the pickup's cab, wearing what looked to me like a goalie outfit. "Those guys are friggin' NUTS!" I thought.

Then I saw the U-2 come up from behind with the truck trying to match its speed, which it did. The big guy in the back then grabbed hold of the wing tip and steadied it while the combo made their way down the strip and eventually to one of NASA's hangars. "WTF?" I thought maybe I had just witnessed some sort of emergency landing. Turns out this is How It's Done. Standard U-2 Landing Procedure.

I still wanna read that big burly guy's job description.

Back to the B-2 crash. The article says, "Water distorted preflight readings in three of the plane's 24 sensors, making the aircraft's control computer force the B-2 to pitch up on takeoff, resulting in a stall and subsequent crash."

Preflight readings on three of 24 sensors? Preflight readings? Oh, PLEEZE!!!

They'd have us believe that the plane stalled due to bogus data collected prior to takeoff? Old data? Static data? Aren't they telling us that while going airborne this $1.4 billion miracle bases its attidude and speed computations on static, preflight data, whilst discounting the veritable river of real-time sensor data streaming in from the gyros, accelerometers, state-of-the-art GPS, airspeed indicators and God knows what else? Heck, even my lowly Garmin GPS has a pretty damn good idea of how fast I'm driving and it set me back only 250 bucks!

Was their GPS "wet" as well?

How about the INS? Underwater?

Airspeed sensors? Submerged?

But preflight data? Gimme a break!

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06/08/2008 3:28 PM

Hello euporium, I think they discontinued the U-2s, a friend of mine in Ariz. said the new material version is the TR3 ? beats me I couldn't tell them apart at under 100 feet. Though the wings had a light and looked retractile small wing gear. Probably composites instead of plywood for an order of magnitude more cost to the tax payers.

You didn't buy the BS explanation either. Fly by wire updates how many times per second?

The only way I can think of to upset the whole system is to calibrate it wrong. If they have to calibrate a billion FRN dollars plus plane before every take off I'd be surprised. Next they will claim pilot error.

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06/08/2008 4:36 PM

U V writes: "The only way I can think of to upset the whole system is to calibrate it wrong. If they have to calibrate a billion FRN dollars plus plane before every take off I'd be surprised."

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That scenario is not so far-fetched as you might think.

When the Hubble Space Telescope sent back the first images, it became immediately apparent that the main mirror had been figured incorrectly. It had the wrong shape - a wrong shape made to a precision of 1 part in 800,000 (if the mirror were scaled to the size of the Earth, the largest bumps in the surface would be only 6 inches tall).

Perkin-Elmer - the manufacturer of the HST main mirror - traced the problem to the calibration of a so-called 'null detector' that was used to verify the correct shape of the mirror during manufacturing. The detector hadn't been calibrated and, consequently, the information it supplied was incorrect. This little problem sneaked past a multitude of inspections at every turn and all the way into orbit.

The HST was designed to be serviced in space, but the one thing that couldn't be replaced was the main mirror. They were stuck with it. Corrective optics were installed during subsequent repair missions, but even so the mis-shaped mirror deflected a significant portion of the faint light it received into interior parts of the telescope; parts not accessible to the HST's remarkable cameras. Image distortion was largely eliminated using these later optics, but nothing could be done about the wasted light no matter how innovative the fix. All because someone forgot to calibrate one measley instrument.

At least the HST didn't crash and burn.

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06/08/2008 5:30 PM

So true but the tragedy of the HST was the spy satellite(military) side of Perkin-Elmer knew it was ground to the wrong specs from the start but was forbidden to tell. So the US tax payer ate the bill of repair and storage when HST could have been repaired while waiting for a launch.

Who is the idiot who designs a plane that costs multi billions to use that doesn't know where it's at at all times? My phone was about $400US FRNs and it supposedly can within 3-4 meters 96% of the time. Military GPS is much better. Tomahawk Cruise missiles flew down streets and through windows in the first Iraqi war.

Sounds like we are paying a lot of industrial war machine stock holders to fill their pockets and put the US in debt.

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06/08/2008 1:34 PM

This video looks as if it was made from the scaled model airplanes. Right after the ejection of the pilot, the plane turns black even though the part of the plane that hit the ground was the left wing. It seems ridiculous that someone will actually make a scale model of the crash. Why would anyone spend time making this crash should be the actual question of this post.

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06/08/2008 2:03 PM

mktim69 offers: "It seems ridiculous that someone will actually make a scale model of the crash."

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In a nutshell, yes it does.

That black "smoke" you see is the plane's radar-absorbent coating disintegrating on impact. B-2s are not painted in the conventional sense of the word. They're coated. Worse, the coating is toxic and it comes off easily with errant hand pressure. It's never a good idea to touch the exterior surfaces of a B-2 for these reasons.

That is no model in some cinematic fakery designed to rile up the conspiracy theorists. What would be the motive?

Air Force Chief of Staff: "Hey, guys! Let's fake a B-2 crash so that Congress will cut off our funding! Waddayathink?"

Ridiculous? Bingo!

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06/08/2008 3:32 PM

Wow.. the only reaction of your criticism gives me a sense of unbelievable smart@$$ attitude who has no real reference to the source of plane's surface structure. So just because the surface of the plane is toxic, the rest of the plane has to turn completely black on the impact of the left wing? Isn't this kind of information supposed to be classified? How did you find out about this? Just as you can say that the plane's surface turns smoky on the impact with no reference to your source, I could say that the plane was actually transforming from the plane state into a "Unicorn" transformer (I had to look that one up in wikipedia).

Other questions regarding legibility of this video are, the classification of of the files and why would it be available to the public now, if it is available why isn't it aired on the news, shouldn't this be a concern not only of the government of US but also the rest of the people in US. If $1.4 billion does not concern anyone then may be everyone should just do what the government says and may be slowly convert to communist state..

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06/08/2008 4:02 PM

mktime69 offers: "I could say that the plane was actually transforming from the plane state into a "Unicorn" transformer..."

At least the claim would be on par with the rest of your posts.

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mktime69 continues: "...your criticism gives me a sense of unbelievable smart@$$ attitude"

You need to work on that.

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mktim69 ponders: "So just because the surface of the plane is toxic, the rest of the plane has to turn completely black on the impact of the left wing?"

Read it again for a more complete picture.

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06/08/2008 4:54 PM

Until I see some proof or reference to your speculations I will still consider your theory to be untrue, so just accept the reality and stop writing pointless blogs about stuff you don't even know about.

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06/08/2008 5:33 PM

mktim69 poses, Ninja-style: "Until I see some proof or reference to your speculations I will still consider your theory to be untrue, so just accept the reality and stop writing pointless blogs about stuff you don't even know about."

Doesn't it strike you as a bit presumptious on your part to demand "proof" from me whilst offering none of your own? The fact that I have not divulged my sources says nothing about the veracity of my information nor of the validity of my "theory," as you call it. One thing that should be readily apparent from my post is that I just might have a bit of experience in this area; experience of which you clearly have none.

What really galls me so much about conspiracy theorists such as yourself is that you pollute a top-flight forum like this one with inane posts designed, apparently, to portray yourselves as Gnostics having Second Sight into the Deep Things we highly-trained, highly-experienced engineering 'dullards' can scarcely dream of.

The truth of the matter is that posers like you clearly have deep-seated emotional issues that manifest as delusions of grandeur (you fancy yourself a Ninja, I'll wager) or as solicitations for punishment: you set forth ridiculous assertions and then wait for the tide to roll in. And when it does (as it inevitably will), you predictably conclude that the flood of objections can be none other than further proof of your intellectual prowess and your superiority over your fellow Man. That's what's in it for you and it's why you do it. You're not the first to dump your dysfunctional baggage here, and you certainly won't be the last.

Do something useful for once, eta-san. Get a therapist.

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06/08/2008 6:16 PM

It took you long to reply. Did you have to use a dictionary to find all those "big" words?

I found allot of what you said very repulsive and insulting, is that how you guys do it in Texas, because if you are, I will be waiting ages for the sources of your "all mighty knowledge". Your arrogance of admitting that you have no real source to back up your "knowledge" just shows how stubborn and backwards are people in Texas. You might find easier to accept the fact that you are too full of yourself and that you drive everyone crazy with your "know everything" comments.

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