Have Technology, Have Pollution Anyway

"Relevant technological and regulatory infrastructures are in place but are not in play."

Well, I guess that means it's not "Relevant", doesn't it. So what part don't we understand. There's no EPA, no watchdog organizations. They do what ever they want, as long as there is money to be made. The world goes along, because because they get products on the cheap. But guess what, the wind blows, and the water flows.

http://newsok.com/chinas-growing-pollution-reaches-u.s./article/2822309

You get what you pay for.

And when the plant managers oldest boy has Mercury poisoning things will change. You can only pee in your own pool so long before you die from swimming in it.

They have found a form of natural population control called greedy stupidity. They will learn, die or wish they died.

What they will find is unless they change they will weaken themselves to where outside influences can take control.

Brad

This is not just the plant owners conspiracy, it's backed by Beijing in the name of more profit for them too.

If they cut their generator's profits, their profits get cut too, so they stand firmly in the "It's OK As Long As We're Making Money" camp.

Then they go to International Climate Control conferences and scream that it's all the fault of the greedy Western and Japanese devils because they won't give the poor Chinese generators their latest technology for free.

Yes, that's what they demand, knowing all along that they HAVE the technology, but they would rather pay the human cost of not using it than the monetary cost of using it.

Hello?

Is anybody home?

Relax, the 'Human Period' appears headed toward early demise in earth's time frame. It is very doubtful that significant numbers of humans will exist in another 1000 years or less. So, the 'Human Period' will be some 5000 years long, a near instantaneous event in geological time.

It is an inescapable FACT the earth cannot sustainably support the human population of even 1800 at the 'standard of living' of today, much less the population of today. Oil is only the presently most 'visible' of natural resources we have plundered. There are hundreds, if not thousands of other resources even more severely depleted from exploitation in the last 100 years. We may be near or even past the 'point of no return' in decimating the large fish ecology in the oceans.

The current mystery of sudden die-off of cultivated honey bees may cause sudden and drastic reduction in both animal and human foodstuffs in our 'mono-culture agribusiness' dominated food chain.

Thermodynamics enables us to understand Entropy and how Entropy governs all things we see,touch,eat,etc., including us. The most important FACT is 'there is no free lunch.' Everything we change in any manner or degree causes an increase in Entropy. We MUST spend ENERGY to accomplish that. Think about gold for a minute. We spend tremendous amounts of energy--both fossil fuels and human/animal- to extract gold from concentrated deposits that were created over millions of years. We are then dispersing it widely, -in jewelry, tooth fillings, electronic parts,etc that are 'burried' in many many thousands of locations--not the few like we found it in.

We humans are and have been gorging on natural resources because those are the only one that really exist. We have allowed the population to swell so far above sustainability that sudden demise of the 'Human Age' is essentially a certainty. A few hundred coal power plants in China will only slightly shorten the time until that sudden decline starts.

We build huge facilities in remote locations out of scarce and costly materials to liquify natural gas so we can move it around the world, and one of the larger uses of natural gas is to make nitrogenous fertilizers. We quickly exhausted natural sources (bat guano) well over a century ago. We use the fertilizer to grow mono-culture plants to feed large mono-culture animals to use as human food.

Maybe we are at the tipping point now?

I've always said we should colonise the solar system and make Earth a park.

Brad

Good Question. Why?

Possibly some or all of these plants are privately owned.

Government or States also may own some of these and have in place Laws may mandate such Equipment for all plant operators.

Owners private or Governmental may though feel (whether motivated by greed or some other state of mind) disadvantaged by following such laws and good responsible Engineering practices.

It is the usual common problem. It seems as though each Human generation feels only responsible for their own immediate and personal needs and that they are responsible to no one else.

Put on a show of Engineering capability but the bottom line morals of an alley cat.

Trully a dilema of which most refuse to address today as relevent for our future prosperity.

So what Standards will address this problem? Any Ideas?

J.Archer