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07/13/2007 7:14 AM

I would like to know if it is possible to replace a Darlington transistor, from a switched power supply , from a UPS , by a power MOSFET.

If it is possible, can someone tell why?

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07/13/2007 7:31 AM

Well......yes, and it may work...

But Mosfets have a habit of blowing short circuit for no obvious reason.

Ok Darlingtons dissipate more power....

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07/13/2007 8:49 AM

cheers for the reply.

yes, we tink it is quite possible aswell...!!!

ps: so dont you find the pyramids a awesome temple?

they are quite an engineerring achivment.

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07/13/2007 11:06 AM

It's certainly possible - you need to look at the drive circuit to see if it's compatible with a MOSFET. And choose a MOSFET with substantially higher breakdown voltage and power handling capability than you think you need - that will give you a more reliable design.

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07/13/2007 1:19 PM

yes...we get to that conclusion aswell.

tanks for the reply, and have a nice weekend!

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07/14/2007 3:20 PM

Sorry !

Both the devices have quite different Driver requirements.

Darlingtons [Transisitor] is Current-feed device while MOSFET is a Voltage-driven device.

that is transistors need high input power [gain max 10 in a single Power transistor & max 100 in a darlington]

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07/14/2007 4:09 PM

Yes one assumes the questioner knows this..

The darlinglon will be driven via a resitor or potential divider ...and will need about 1.5 v drive...

The mosfet being voltage driven may well be fine as it won't drop any volts through the feed resistor and will probably turn on at about 3 volt (if the right one is chosen).

In other words ....yes it may well work ..

Funny that's what I said initially...

But yes , you may need to mess with the drive circuit...but I'd have thought you'd know that...and check the voltages...and spec's

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07/15/2007 8:51 PM

Regards & thanks

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07/16/2007 2:38 AM

Mosfet drive circuit and darlington drive circuits are very different . So even if it works for few minutes , is not a good engg solution . The drive pulses are lot different.

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07/16/2007 3:27 AM

I would like to know if it is possible to replace a Darlington transistor, from a switched power supply , from a UPS , by a power MOSFET.

The Q doesn't ask if its wise, good engineering, difficult, clever or funny....just POSSIBLE.........

Call me a pedant if you like...

"Hey Del...you're a pedant!"

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07/16/2007 6:44 AM

we tink it will do, cos the voltage divider that was feeding the darlington have enough potencial to trigger a FET.

in any case , the darlington is in the end of a switch circuit, so it was a solution that the original builders projected.

replacing by MOSFET is doable, we gess, as long as we get the right one.

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07/16/2007 7:41 AM

Let us know if it works!

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07/30/2007 10:53 AM

tanks for your interest, and sorry to answer so latelly .

I am not responsable for the project and I was trying to answer to a friend about this.

In any case , the time is for hollidays...wiiiiii:)

we dont see much trouble in replacing the transistors, but there are a lot of if´s since they are microcontroled , so trigger timings must be carefully revised!

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