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Home Turbine - Power Generator

07/14/2007 11:14 AM

Good morning all the engineers sitting in front of your computers at the various corners of the world.

I am here with a Idea.....that I think could be good non-conventional source of energy.
I would like to have responses from the people interested in the Tidal energy side,non-conventional energy side,
and hydraulic side. As this project I suppose is a combination of all these.

I would like to send you a presentation on it.....

But first I would like to know about the interested people , who will be further helping and guiding me.

Solaank...

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07/14/2007 11:17 PM

OK give us an email address.

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07/15/2007 8:40 AM

My email Id is

solaank@rediffmail.com

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08/17/2007 6:58 AM

I am Engineer Paul Mpagi Nkata of Kampala Uganda. I have for several years been contemplating ing getting into the simialar idea of producing endless enegy from the tides. Where i stay along Victoria shore on the kampala Surbub the lake has a real power potential whuich for miliions of years has never been tapped.

Some background and history to know more about my present challenges

There is a population pressure on the whole continent of Africa presently. But the issue of over population is taking a new dimension arround the Great Lakes Region where Uganda is in the middle of events and is at the same time the smallest countries. Due to this pressure more resources are needecd toi be able to meet the daily needs of the very youthful but unproductive population. A very low par capita of US$ 200 is the very bitter reality, a NDP of just US$ 4.00 Billion is the maximum this small country can afford to make out of its economy. The massive population growth of 3.5% of the present 31 Million will by 2050 will be 100 Million.

The fact is that there is such a distruction to the nature that is not paralled going on i.e. the onslaught to environment and nature is just as bad as the middle ages of then Europe and then the Jesuits had to be wicth hunted and it made then flee to the Americas and later on to Africa Afrikans in South Africa. All tyhe european Green Canopy was then distroyed by the millitant war loads and kings of Europe trying to wage wars in the middle east/and fur east for gaining territories for trade. Recall Marco Pol, Vasco da Gama, Margellan and Amerigo etc.

Uganda is amongst the poorest countries on earth but has vast amounts of resources that are unused. This includes the human resources as well like myself I am wasted because the country does not engage the academic eliites in any resourceful research or rather there is no sound investment budget into R & D. neither can one even think of vventure capital as a signicant source of innovative initiative to endeavour some venturous technical discovery.

Tidal Wave technology as a key solution to the Power Shortage in Gaba

I happen to find your interesting inquirely by virtue of chance. Last Sunday I was sitted on the bench on the newly constructed peer at the GABA BEACH RESORT near Kampala/Uganda, The Golden Beach is worhty you seeing once in your life time. It is seated on a 10 (ten Acre prime land along the Victoria Shore. Gaba is a norty slum/ghetto village of some 20,000 (twenty thousand) innocent poor soles. There is supposed to be a fish village that feeds Kampala (which is some 10 Km away). Gaba supplies Kampala with a population of Approx. 2-2.5 Million people and the surrounding satellite towns with the wood/charcoal from the islands. Before the island green canopy that has delivered polster for supply of oxygen fully disapears into the cooking pots of the citzens , better renewable or rgenerative electricaql power from the tidal waves can be tapped and supplied as a limtiless soource of energy.

The owner of Gaba Resort Beach is called mr Kiwanuka and has resently given me an assignment to solicit for some ideas of fundraising money to first of all gorw fish at the peer for poor people of Gaba as a source of protein. He is installing a research work on the township socio-economic welbeing of Gaba by the local International University so as to capture data on the best practice to engage the local population to participate in their real development. The most burning issue is generation of cheap power to be used so as ato avoid burning of wood. Some 100,000 tons of wood disappears monthly at Gaba by tree cutting. This kind of distruction must have to be curtailed if the carbon green hous has to be stopped immediately.

Construction of such tidal wave structures will be the new solution to the already critical situation. we therefore appeal to your attention to come over on board and we solve this issue jointly.

I am working already working on some modules that are to be pilot technical work for this ideal solutio. Some way somewhere ther is need to have some idealism so as to reachout a pioneers service to the people in need. There has to be a modern Robbinhoo who is in position to judge where to pick ideas to deliver them to the services of the needy poor! I am supposed to be an energy engineer, but interestingly i am diveret to other regions of work like in information management solutions for the sake of earning a living. Much as I know that energy is lucking in Uganda but of now the initiatives towards solving this critical shortage has not been given the due respect in terms of investment. I am of the view that this tidal technical solutionis the best one can look at as an alternative! I would very much appreciate your collaboration in respect to this present project which is already on ground. Gaba Beach Resort has a frontal stretch of shore longer than 300 metres where some big waves can be utilised to form a natural energy source.

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08/19/2007 1:50 AM

HI !

The Problems are immense but you need to break the outcome down into attainable goals, by a plan to accomplish the solution your looking for.

1. You will need to do a survey of the current strength in the area & the possibility of a tidal power device could work in that area. This includes maps with approximate current speeds in the areas, the depth of the water in those areas, this will give you a point to start from. This map will help you convince some one that your idea has potential to work & provide the power you are looking for. I Wish i could help but i also have a family to support but if my invention gets recognized i could help at a later time.

2. You need to think of a separate funding source, I know you are looking for some one to help you out but the best way is to start helping your self first and then look for additional help as the project progresses. Those at CR4 can help you find a lot of answers you didn't know even existed. Weather you know it or not, razing fish can be a good money source for your project. So I would also consider stringing some nets and contacting CR4 for the food information to feed and care for the fish that are all ready there in that area. you may raze enough fish to feed the hotel kitchen & send some to the village & also to pay for help in running the fish farm.

3. As your fish farm grows your potential tidal power can be the next project to tackle, because now you have the income to support the next project, the one you really want to do.

4. as your running the fish farm, the extra time you can be planning and gaining information on installing the correct tidal generator for your area, weather it's wave power or subsurface watermill power, you will have the time to investigate all the various methods and procedures on installing the generators you are looking for. Remember CR4 has the answers but you need to ask the questions. So you need to sign up as soon as possible so you can get started.

5. There are several other steps after this that can be filled in later, so get those floating nets and start that fish farm as soon as possible. contact CR4 for directions in that area on starting a fish farm, there is your starting suggestion I WISH YOU GOOD LUCK & BE SUCCESSFUL I KNOW YOU CAN DO THIS PROJECT IF YOU KEEP YOUR WITS ABOUT YOU.

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03/03/2011 1:24 PM

Hello Mr. Nkata, did you finished your studies at FE VUT Brno in 1981? You can contact me at

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07/15/2007 12:23 AM

HI solaank !

Have you reviewed the tidal energy blog that was up a few months ago ?

There may be some help there.

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07/15/2007 1:28 AM

Please goahead and send me your ideas, maybe I can learn something from you as well

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07/15/2007 2:23 AM

The following is a summary of a workshop intiated by the American Depatment of Energy, back in Oct 2005. Has a good summary, and leads into other web sights, to keep abreast of developements.

http://hydropower.inel.gov/hydrokinetic_wave/pdfs/hydro_workshop_proceedings_13feb06.pdf

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07/15/2007 7:36 AM

Quite possible, and feasible.

Countries may differ but I think the coastline and rivers that can be navigated are owned by the state. You may have to start there.

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07/15/2007 9:19 AM

There has been studies using tidal energy to lift large volumes of water. The system then allows the water helicoil screw to drive many independant generators. The water generator screw is also used in river systems that have a 3knots approximately flow rate. Other suggested systems used compressed fliud to power some form of motor to turn a generator.

Along the east coast of Australia, we have a large natural ocean current that could be harnessed for power generation but there are only a few small operations at present.

I believe the AIMS(Australian Institute of Marine Science) near Townsville was working on the use of tidal energy.

I look forward to further information.

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07/15/2007 11:17 AM

Dear Solaank,

count on me... email: jojie_oak@yahoo.com

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07/15/2007 2:59 PM

Having developed a system to extract and store energy from the tide 15 years ago. It was investigated for the production of energy from the Bristol Channel by consultants at government expense for use in the UK electricity grid.

Incidentally the consulting firm used, have made millions over the years investigating a barrage in the Bristol Channel. I should not suggest this, but they may have suspected that their luctative income would come to an end if this took off.

It was confirmed that it worked however, but the project was considered to be uneconomic. They insisted on everything being in stainless steel and costed it for the production of one unit. Involving (at that time) a large gantry.

Since this I have modified the system, no gantry is needed and it requires very little costly materials but is mostly constructed from recycled materials. Construction being unskilled labour - to make it really cheap I suggested prison labour. This was not popular with politicians, as nothing like this had ever been done before.

The energy is not used directly from the rise or fall but is stored and can be called off when wanted.

It would be grand to have someone construct it for domestic use if only to show the world what it can do.

The original patented principle was somewhat complex and involved a great deal more construction than the later development, which is almost all under water.

If anyone is interested send your email address to richard@hamsterbaskets.co.uk and I can send a synopsis of the principle. Once I have composed it.

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07/20/2007 2:31 PM

I'll vouch. I was working for Applied Materials where I met a fellow qc who told me a fascinating tale. He said he and some others began developing a method power the offshore rig they were working on. Excited by their results they approached management. Bonuses for all? No. They wer persecuted. Undaunted my friend struck out out on his own. He says that at this point 'strange people' began making serious 'requests' that he respect their 'suggestions' to cease and desist.

I always wondered how much validity that story had. Now I think perhaps more than I gave credit.

As a result my design for lakeside and coastal inhabitants was fueled.

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07/16/2007 2:12 AM

Great idea, having fun what we are doing is most importent.Let me see in what way u r brain is working. thinking my brain help you.

my Id is lokesh.gowda@ vignani.com

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07/16/2007 2:37 AM

Solaank,

I'm not sure that I can be of much help but I can tell you of A study done years ago[I believe in the '80s] of A combination tidal power generating system and A much needed causeway [serving two purposes in one project] The study was about spanning Cook Inlet for A much closer drive to A vast land mass for popuating.[Anchorage,Ak. is in A"bowl" with cook inlet to the west and the Chugach mountain range to the east, and is now so overly built that A causeway seems imminent]

These are alledgedly the second highest tides in the world and if you ever witness A boar tide there you'll believe it...If my memory serves me well it was the Rothchilde family that did A feasibility study but I believe the heavy silt (cookinlet clay] at that time was the drawback. I've often wondered if in the last 20 odd years if any solutions or technologies have developed?..Stubones.....

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07/18/2007 11:44 PM

HI Solaank !

I Live in Connecticut, u.s.a. & in new York city the Hudson river tidal change is very strong, a company is installing a underwater windmill that is taking advantage of the strong tidal serge to generate power. so far they have put in 40 windmills and generated over 6 megawatts of power. one of the windmills spin so fast it riped one of the blades off. so now they are redesigning the windmills to take a stronger surge and power output. the windmills are 40 to 60 feet under water, a tough change for the divers to accomplish. they can't see very well at that depth 2 feet to 5 feet, thats all. there have been local news bulletins on the problems encountered.

check the wire services you may find info on it.

this equipment may be used off of Alaska, it would stop the mud from accumulating around the windmills with the turbulences in the water.

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07/16/2007 8:59 AM

I'll help in anyway I can

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07/21/2007 1:51 AM

HI ALL !

jrpeck you said you would help any way you can. well do you have any info to contribute to this blog. Maybe you have an experience that you could share ?

thanks

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06/01/2011 1:30 PM

Hi all....

Sorry I could not reply to all your post which you all have been sending on this topic since 2007. I got lost in my work. Today after a long time when I was curious to know about my Friction water heater project on Google, I came across these posts.

I am really very much happy and thankful to you all for your replies and discussions...

I am also sorry as I could not send you the concept drawing of my Machine. As I have lost my drawings, I am showing you all the handmade drawing of the conceptual machine. I invite you all for the further discussions on the drawing and feasibility of the concept.

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