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Generator Failure

05/31/2015 8:11 AM

A 0.55 kW borehole pump with a single phase motor having a run capacitor was powered by a diesel generator. The generator specifications are: 10 kVA; 415 V; 3 phase; 50 Hz; 0.8 PF. After about 4 months, the generator AVR and rectifier diodes blew-up. The generator had an unbalanced load i.e. two phases were switched off and only one phase was in operation. The phase in operation was between one live and the neutral at 240 v single phase. The AVR was replaced but it again blew. In my opinion, the likely cause of failure of the alternator is: (1) the unbalanced load; and (2) load with a leading PF due to the motor capacitor.

I will appreciate to get further information on the likely causes of failure; the mechanism of failure (e.g. zero sequel currents, etc); and the suggested solutions.

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05/31/2015 12:57 PM

The moral being generators should have phase detection/protection. Many problems can be avoided following Author Larry Bush's generator advice and procedures http://www.feedforward.com.au/emergency_power_generator.htm

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05/31/2015 1:15 PM

What good would phase loss protection do here? OP deliberately operates a single phase motor across one phase to ground, with the other two phases unloaded. He would be better off using a single phase generator to feed a solitary single phase load.

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05/31/2015 12:58 PM

1. What did the trouble shooting already performed indicate?

2. What did the generator manufacturer's tech service say, when contacted?

3. What did the on-site visit by a service tech indicate?

4. What have you done, so far, to fix the problem?

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05/31/2015 1:08 PM

The unbalanced load is probably causing the problem, it's unlikely the run capacitor is causing the problem though it may contribute to it. The pump load (0.55kW) is small relative to the size of the generator, but what we don't know is how the AVR and its diodes are powered from the generator.

In a machine this small the excitation is often derived from a pair of diodes connected across two phases of the generator output and relies upon the residual magnetism in the rotor to build up voltage. If that happens to be the phase that you're starting your motor across, the voltage won't build up properly and the diodes have to pass more current in order push extra current into the field. Do this often enough and the overheating blows the diodes.

If you can provide more detail on the alternator and motor I'll see if this is the case, or if there's any resonant effect with the motor/capacitor combination. More details yield better answers.

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06/01/2015 4:14 AM

The primary decision making criteria for selecting this oversized 3ph genset for this pump was most probably that it was the one they have on hand.

Maybe after fixing it they should consider some useful dummy loads on the other phases. Small airconditioners perhaps? Have to weigh up fuel costs V frequent repair cost.

It's hot here too. Worksite airconditioning has got to start being part of regular PPE in hot weather.

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06/01/2015 10:03 AM

I agree, but it illustrates the point that the old "the plug fits the socket so it must work ok" mentality often conforms to the Law of Unintended Consequences.

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06/01/2015 10:28 AM

I am less inclined to blame the small single phase load as I am to blame the general lack of load itself.

Very few smaller gensets are all that fussy about phase balancing but I am aware that long duration running at light loads can cause the rotor brushes to glaze over due to running at minimal current levels. I've seen this a number of times in portable welder generator units that spent a lot of time being used on work sites for auxiliary power sources where they would run for days never seeing a load bigger than a few cell phone chargers and cordless tool chargers.

This glazing can cause intermittent open circuit conditions in the rotor which will act like a hugh induction coil causing a high voltage spike to be produced which when high enough will break through the glaze and hit the voltage regulator with a pretty serious spike. Do that enough times and something will have to give which is usually the diodes or the switching devices in the regulator.

The other thought is that the rotor may have an intermittent short to the frame which causes a overloading of the voltage regulator. That too would cause the diodes to explode.

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06/06/2015 5:00 AM

What brushes?

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06/01/2015 5:17 PM

Why don't you check the single phase motor and make sure it or its capacitor isn't faulty.

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06/02/2015 1:07 AM

Thank you very much indeed for some very useful responses.

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06/04/2015 6:37 AM

If you have a 3 phase to single phase transformer of the proper voltage rating, use that.

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06/04/2015 8:40 AM

Thank you for your advise.

Do you have a specification for such a transformer? This will really help me.

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06/04/2015 8:56 AM

Yes. This is called a control transformer. Use a 415 volt 3 phase Primary / 240 volt singe phase secondary with a 10 amp rating. You can also purchase a transformer with a fuse clips mounted for primary and secondary protection.

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06/04/2015 10:25 AM

Thank you for your time, it is highly appreciated.

I suppose the dedicated single phase generators use such a transformer.

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06/04/2015 10:52 AM

Only if there is a need. A 3 phase generator has a different need than a single phase generator has.

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