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I Have a Question About Awareness

07/26/2015 5:08 PM

I had read that in WWII, and even today. that (fighter) pilots would get so fixated at a target, whether air or ground.... that they would actually crash their planes.... There is a term for this,.... where they lose situation awareness....I can not recall what this is called.

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07/26/2015 5:17 PM

Perhaps you are thinking of the term "spatial awareness".

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07/26/2015 5:24 PM

Target fixation.

Target fixation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I wrecked a perfectly good race car because I was fixated on the car I was chasing and forgot all about the wall I ran into.Those black marks on the wall are mine.

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07/26/2015 5:34 PM

Yea that's the one. Lost a perfectly good go-cart race once when I clipped the tyre barrier with absolutely no one around be at the time.

Ouch. Hey, I'm trying to relate.

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07/26/2015 5:40 PM

Fattened the whole right side, blew the front tire and generally ruined my day.

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07/26/2015 6:38 PM

Is that a cavalier by any chance?

Wait, it's not red, never mind.

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07/26/2015 6:37 PM

Bingo, thanks

Later on, I'll post what I needed it for, it's pretty interesting, .... Well, at least to me it pretty interesting.

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07/26/2015 5:49 PM

I was aware of what goes on around me once. That was the scariest 5 minutes of my life and I will never do it again.

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07/26/2015 6:57 PM

CFIT, in the the world's shallowest dive.

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07/26/2015 7:05 PM

Tunnel vision?

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07/26/2015 9:46 PM

Or attention deficit disorder. :-)

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07/28/2015 9:44 AM

Old reference to "white line fever", driving at night, the mind is mesmerised by the dotted white line down the middle of the road. Seem to recall that is why most of the center line markings are now yellow.

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07/28/2015 12:52 PM

I think it also had to do with the rhythmic repetition of the stripes, like a slow-motion strobe effect inside the brain.

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07/27/2015 10:52 AM

Yes this always happens to Wile E Coyote when he's chasing the Roadrunner...

Loss of proper perspective...

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07/29/2015 8:19 PM

Hey! How did you get a copy of our new company short-term project direction plan?

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07/27/2015 2:11 PM

Lost horizon gimbal ohshitauger?

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07/28/2015 7:33 AM

Very interesting... I learned something today.

A similar phenomenon that I have noticed is when I get totally engrossed in a drawing or an engineering problem. Sometimes 2-3 hours will pass in what seems like 10 minutes. I glance at my watch and can't believe it. I wonder if that's a form of hypnosis.

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07/28/2015 9:25 AM

What you experienced is called Flow:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flow_%28psychology%29

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07/28/2015 12:07 PM

How interesting! Thank you!

My daughter majored in Theatre in college and she was in several big plays. They would rehearse a few nights each week for a couple months and on the Saturday before opening night, they would typically have a 12-hour marathon rehearsal. I thought that sounded horrible but she always said that the time really flew by. Twelve hours felt like only an hour or two. I remember telling her that if that was the case, she was probably in the right major. I'm sure they would have seemed like 50-hour rehearsals to me!

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07/28/2015 12:50 PM

Flow is a wonderful feeling, very 'zen.' Some people call it 'Heterodyning,' after the main character in the Girl Genius webcomic(1), although I prefer to call it 'sipping from the Well of Inspiration/the Madness Well,' (Same well, two sides of the same sign) since I tend to pattern my 'public persona' as somewhere between 'wacky professor' and 'mad scientist.' (There have been plenty of role models from my youth to base myself on, Phinneus J. Whoopee, Doc Brown, Egon Spengler, to name just a few. I was one of those kids who never went through the 'I wanna be a fireman/cowboy/policeman/astronaught/football player' phase, I pretty much started out with 'I wanna be a scientist' and stayed there, until I learned about Engineering, which still matched my childhood goals about being a 'smart guy' instead of a 'laboring guy')

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  1. A 'gaslamp fantasy'(2) story about Europe controlled by mad scientists, written and drawn by Phil and Kaja Folio.
  2. It's like Steampunk without the gloom-and-doom that the -punk suffix tends to add. The Big Empire enforcing a modicum of peace between all the mad scientists (or 'Sparks,' as they are called in-universe) has only one law imposed on the member states: Don't Make Me Come Over There. That's it, just 'don't fight so loudly with your neighbors, or oppress your own people so harshly, that I need to fly my castle over there and 'sort things out.'(3)
  3. It also makes for a stock opening line when he *DOES* show up somewhere to clean up a mess: "I have one rule, just ONE, and you STILL managed to screw it up..." In a world of mad scientists, hammy, over-the-top, scenery-chewing cliches are so commonplace, the populace doesn't bat an eyelash anymore, unless they have to dodge debris or something.
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07/29/2015 5:51 AM

I read that comic!

It helps distract me from my wife who turned out to be very much of the anti heterodyne type.

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07/29/2015 9:26 AM

Cool.

So, which of the Jagers do you like best? And you can't say Bosun Higgs, we're still not sure if he's human, Jager, Jager-turned-human, or something else entirely. (And knowing the Foglios, We'll never know for sure as long as there's more gags that can be done around the mystery.)

While maxim has the nicest hat (which should count the most), I prefer Oggie, gor his carefree innocence.

And I really enjoyed Humomgulus. "HUMONGULUS CAN LIFT SCENERY WHILE CHEWING ON IT! HUMONGULUS CAN MILK GIANTEST OF GIANT COWS!! HUMONGULUS HAS NO INDOOR VOICE!!! HUMONGULUS IS LARGEST LARGE HAM THERE IS!!!!" I hope we get to see him again, even if he was just a glorified elevator operator/elevator machinery.

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07/29/2015 12:40 PM

Not really sure to be honest. I enjoy the whole comic and all of its characters.

With that comic I sort of see myself fitting into a world like that a bit too well being I have found myself doing AE stuff just for sh!ts and giggles curiosity that I later found out people with doctorates in physics working at universities were doing as serious work and having great difficulty with.

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07/29/2015 3:20 PM

"Not really sure to be honest. I enjoy the whole comic and all of its characters."

Same here, I love the whole cast, even Baron Wolfenback. For all that he seems to be a despot and a tyrant, he has a noble goal, a Pax Europa, where the people do not to live in daly terror of some Spark or other wandering in and making everyone miserable. Good Goal, MIGHT be a bit heavy-handed in implementing it. Then again, sometimes you need to kill a Spark two or three times before he'll pay attention to what you have to say. (Although just threatening death is usually enough for nobility, since once they've been officially dead, they are stripped of their titles and wealth, which gets handed down to their inheritors, even if they come back to life afterwards. It even seems perfectly reasonable in-universe: "Dad, you died. I'm King now, go and enjoy your retirement. You can finally build that Clank army you wanted, and use it to kick Uncle Drosslemeyer out of Whowouldbuildthisinaswamp Castle. That would have started a war back when you were in charge, now it's just two back-from-the-dead ex-nobles having fun."

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07/29/2015 7:08 PM

I'm thinking this topic off shoot is almost worthy of its own thread relating to who likes what silly adult or not so adult orientated comics cartoon or whatever else that just makes them feel like a kid for a little while now and then.

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07/30/2015 1:19 AM

Yaa, ... Find anther campsite... ;-) this one is taken.... Actually.... It ran out of gas.

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07/29/2015 9:27 AM

Also, Agatha hopped up on coffee. 'Nuf said.

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07/28/2015 1:12 PM

Your daughter's in Theatre? Try this the next time you're with her and see if she laughs:

(hold up an index card as if reading the name on it)

"Jaques La Peduex!" (ZHak le-paDOO)

(look around as if nobody stepped up to answer)

"Jaques La Peduex?"

(look around again, then look at card closely)

"Jack Lapidus." (jack laPIDus)

(Yes, it's a scene from The Producers, the 2005 film of the 2001 musical of the 1968 film (that alone seems worthy of a joke). Very few theatre people today have gone through life without seeing at least one version of that, and fewer still don't love it. Mel skewered life on stage as only he could. You think those movies are funny now, watch them with your daughter, and ask her about the scenes she laughs at that you don't understand. So many bits from 'inside' the world of greasepaint and limelight.)

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07/28/2015 1:55 PM

Ha! Ha! I'll try it and get back to you... When I'm with my wife and daughter, there's plenty of apparently humorous stuff that goes right over my head, especially British comedy. Our brains are wired differently.

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07/28/2015 3:19 PM

I used to come in to work, start working and before I knew it, I'd look up and second shift would be walking in, I'd asked why are you here so early, , their response was, it 5 minutes to 4:00. Almost time to go home, I loved that.

Then I looked at my sandwich that I made that morning with Jimmy Deans Turkey, on a hoagie bun, with tomatoes, lettuce, little onion, butter and mayo........ And I get real hungry, so I took that last 5 minutes and eat my lunch.

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That's called sleeping on the job.

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07/28/2015 3:47 PM

Ha, sooooo, your saying, I'm more productive sleeping than most people are working.... Yah, that's believable

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07/28/2015 4:58 PM

Wait, did Lyn just call you a middle manager?

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No. He's a muddler manager.

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07/28/2015 7:03 PM

No, I don't walk around with a coffee cup in my hand looking to see who brought in the doughnuts today..

You see, lyn already has that position.

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I don't drink coffee.

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07/28/2015 8:10 PM

Yes, we all know it's not coffee in your cup.... :P

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07/29/2015 9:08 AM

"I don't drink coffee."

HERETIC!!!! BLASPHEMER!!!!!!!!

(You know I had to chime in about coffee sooner or later. )

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07/28/2015 3:20 PM

And that hypnosis thing, you get that with driving.....

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I remember as a kid (vaguely) riding a bicycle along the very edge of a curb and having a "lockup moment" or "feedback loop". Perhaps this is related, or just a result of a mental condition.

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07/28/2015 3:25 PM

And as your laying on the couch, the psychiatrist asks you, "Do any other of your family members also suffer from mental disorders?

And you reply, "No, not really, .... Matter of fact, they rather enjoy it."

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They would enjoy it more If they could only hear some of the funny stuff My voices have to say.

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07/28/2015 3:49 PM

i know what your saying,.... Because those same voices get even funnier when your in church, or at a funeral..... Right?

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They used to, now I make them wear earplugs.

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07/29/2015 7:09 PM

Many years ago, I worked in R&D with a guy who would often get so engrossed in an idea that he became totally unaware of things going on around him, even while he was walking down the hallway. He had a Ph.D. in Organic Chemistry, and he was a genius. He had an amazing, detailed memory for the darndest things. His shirt was always un-tucked and his hair was always messed up. He always wore a baggy, rumpled-up suit. If you passed by him in the hallway, he often didn't even notice you were there. Heck, there were times he probably wouldn't have noticed a naked lady or dead skunk in the hallway! That kind of focus can be pretty dangerous.

I haven't thought about this guy in years... This discussion made me remember him!

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07/30/2015 1:24 AM

The guy may have Asperger's syndrome.

http://www.webmd.com/brain/autism/mental-health-aspergers-syndrome

I have heard that it's believed that Issac Newton also had it.

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07/30/2015 2:58 AM

A naked lady ?? Seriously, that could not possibly have been a lady. Which hallway was that again ?

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07/29/2015 8:44 PM

I am not aware of this problem.

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07/30/2015 1:20 AM

we can only begin to help you, but first you have to admit that you have a problem.. :-)

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