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Grounding Cable Shields on 4-20ma Instruments

08/14/2015 4:12 PM

On instruments, the accepted method by most of our customers is to have us ground the shield at the control panel, but not at the instrument. Done this for years and it has worked fine. If we get the electrical drawings from the customer, instead of generating them ourselves, the shield is ALWAYS shown attached to ground at the control panel.

Now, we are buying IFM cables with a M12 plug at the instrument end and they have the shield connected to the nut that attaches the cable to the M12 receptacle at the instrument, thereby grounding the shield at the instrument. The end to go in the panel has a heat shrink cover over the end and just the conductors available for wiring. Note that ALL installations we do will most certainly have a good ground path from the panel ground to the instruments as the instruments are ss, the M12 receptacle is ss, the entire skid is ss as is the plumbing the instruments are attached to. While this makes for some very easy wiring, as we don't have to mess with the shield or a drain wire at the panel end, I was wondering if anyone can see a potential problem with this method of grounding the shield? We haven't done enough of these yet to see if any problems occur once the skid running in the plant it is built for. I also wonder what reaction we will get if we start showing the shield grounded at the instrument on our drawings.

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Re: Grounding Cable Shields on 4-20ma Instruments

08/14/2015 4:48 PM

4-20 ma current loop is pretty resistance to interference. One thing that could cause interference is current flowing in the shield. So if you ground the shield at either end but not both ends (a ground loop), you should be OK.

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08/14/2015 4:58 PM

I was leaning that way too - I thought that either end should work. I just wonder what we do on the next plastic housed instrument we get. (few and far between, but hey do exist)

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Re: Grounding Cable Shields on 4-20ma Instruments

08/14/2015 4:50 PM

The possible problem is the introduction of a ground loop. This can increase your power distribution (60 Hz) noise on this or another sensor. Every once in a great while the phase of the induced current is nearly opposite the power line noise from another path thus reducing the measured interference instead of increasing it.

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Re: Grounding Cable Shields on 4-20ma Instruments

08/14/2015 4:59 PM

I have experienced the same wiring method and I have the same concerns that you have.

In some cases where there is a remote possibility of an electrical fault such as an arc flash occurring and stray medium or high voltage could enter the instrument wiring, there are actually two separate grounding systems.

This system has noise shielding with a drain wire that is connected at the panel end and also an outer braided ground shield for personnel & equipment protection that functions as part of the equipment grounding system which is grounded on both ends.

It is my understanding that with this method there must be a ground rod or ground grid at the instrument location and the instrument ground must be bonded/attached.

To me this presents the possibility of creating circulating ground current and/or induced voltage in the instrument signal wires.

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Re: Grounding Cable Shields on 4-20ma Instruments

08/15/2015 9:33 AM

Grounding either end is applicable as long as equipotential is established between the control panel and the instrument. Possibility of Any ground loop is thereby minimized, eliminated when both sides (instrument and control panel) are sitting on the same ground plane.... In my rusting experience of instrumentation... God luck.

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Re: Grounding Cable Shields on 4-20ma Instruments

08/17/2015 5:24 PM

Then don't show the shield on the drawings. After all, there is mucky 110VAC mains travelling on two of the cores within the vendor cable!

4-20mA and simple switch contacts simply don't need shields.

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08/18/2015 8:21 AM

The 110VAC (120 here) is in the power cabinet - never in the 24VDC control cabinet and never run together in wire ways (trays) with the DC stuff. Except for a purchasing error, no instrument is ever powered with 120VAC - only 24VDC. (occasionally there is a slip up and a flow meter gets ordered in 120VAC power) Usually, the 120VAC powers small pumps and UV lights and such.

I agree on the switched 24VDC, no shield necessary, but I think you do need a shield on the 4-20ma and definitely on RTD signals. Our customers all believe we need the shields, so we provide them.

The really mucky thing is the VFD power to the pumps (2 to 3 of them) on the skids and the mixer on the tanks. Ever put a scope on that output? You have to wonder how the motor functions with that noise. I've heard several motors over the last 25 years that made a whistling sound when the VFD was powering them. Noise.

Unfortunately, it is common practice here in this little niche of industry to show a loop around the conductors of any cable coming to terminals in the control panel with a line from the loop to PE. Of course all this is in a nice bright green. Tough to avoid showing that when it is on ALL the drawings we do with signals.

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08/18/2015 10:17 AM

Looking at the voltages applied to a motor with an oscilloscope will often look to be very noisy. Motors produce noise themselves. It is better to look at the currents running through a motor than the voltages. Particularly when a VFD powers the motor. The flyback voltage spikes when transistors turn OFF will just baffle you.

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