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worm gear box

07/26/2007 2:39 AM

I designed a manual worm gear box with reduction ratio of 18. While designing I thought that oonly worm will drive the worm gear. But now, when the gear box is ready, at some particular position of handle (connected to worm shaft), the torque at worm gear shaft actually causing the worm to rotate (when worm handle is let loose).

Can anybody pls explain?

Details of the worm are as follows:-

      • MAT :- EN 8 (THRU HARDENED TO 20-25 HRC)
      • AXIAL MODULE - 3mm
      • AXIAL PITCH - 9.42mm
      • NO OF STARTS - 2
      • AXIAL LEAD - 18.85mm
      • LEAD ANGLE - 11°18'36"
      • PRE ANGLE - 20°
      • NOMINAL TOOTH THK ON REF DIS IN AXIAL SECTION - 4.71mm
      • NOMINAL TOOTH THK ON REF DIS IN NORMAL SECTION - 4.62mm
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Re: worm gear box

07/26/2007 6:11 AM

To much end play in the driven, and clearence in worm and drive, load passing inertia to drive shaft which will momentry drive the driven?

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Re: worm gear box

07/26/2007 12:53 PM

a.k.a. backlash

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07/26/2007 11:09 PM

Do u mean that the CTC distance between the worm & worm gear is more than required or any of then is not cut to the given dimensions creating more backlash or both?

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07/28/2007 4:39 AM

No refering to the thrust from the drive to the driven (turnuing moment plus axial thrust). if the load is high the axial loading could cause a sideways movement of the driven to impart a driving force to the worm drive (initially), this was just an observation, there appears to be plenty of good advice after my post. I assume there was good reason for you to design the worm drive and hope you are succeful.

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Re: worm gear box

07/26/2007 11:23 PM

The lead angle is greater than the angle of slip of the material. The back driving force is overcomming the friction between main gear and worm, using single lead will generally prevent backdriving if physical dimensions will allow.

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Re: worm gear box

07/27/2007 8:16 AM

Too much grease . . .

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Re: worm gear box

07/27/2007 10:25 AM

As a thumb rule a single stage worm reducer with a ratio of less than 1:40 is usually not self locking, that is the worm can be rotated by applying sufficient torque on the wheel shaft if the lubrication is optimal.

The actual reason is because of the low reduction ratio and because you have used a 2-start worm, the lead angle has become higher than the friction angle (some call it slip angle) that is why, the worm gear box is not self-locking.

You should have used a single strart worm which would have resulted in a smaller lead angle, even then it might not have been self locking under proper lubrication.

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#7

Re: worm gear box

07/27/2007 12:57 PM

Why did you design and build something that could be bought out of stock from over a dozen manufacturers?

Re-inventing the wheel seems to be very popular as of late!

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07/27/2007 11:07 PM

Thanks for the reply & pointing out the mistake.

Actually it's a gear box with slip clutch at the o/p shaft (worm gear shaft) for connecting & dis-connecting it with another shaft. So I had to design it, as std gear box manufacturers were not interested.

And the reason for two start was to make the gear box compact.

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07/28/2007 8:28 AM

AH SO!

I can see clearly now.

Good job.

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