Mystery ISP!

To be safe, try not to connect to it. There are many disingenuous people who are willing to set up a trap to steal your information. Especially with public WiFi, as those can be as easy to eavesdrop as using an antenna.

I agree with mecharine and would add...

I do not know the laws regarding network access in Portugal, however, in the US, it is illegal to connect to any computer network without the owner's consent. (Hacker protection) You might want to see if the laws in your country permit you to connect legally.

will do my friends!

but first I+ll have to get more info on that network

tanks for the reply!!!

you can try http://whatismyipaddress.com/ and see what this gives you then follow it up as to location and source. many house holds have wireless connections in house and do not even know they are open to the world, that being said what you send or use it for can also be tracked, again illegal activity in most locations

Hi,

I think what you are getting is internet accesss not access to any other computer system. This is quite common. For example I have broadband internet access for which I pay my internet service provider (ISP) a block sum per month. I keep my ADSL router on wireless without any restrictions so that anyone who has a wireless access point can go to internet. I make sure that no one can access by computer system by having a Firewall in my system. (Some people unknwoingly do this too)

So there absolutely is no risk either for me or for anyone who use free wireless acess to internet which I provide through my wireless modem. As far as I am concerned there is no restriction for me to provide interlet access to any other party so I am not breaching any law. On the other hand according to the limited knowledge I have on law I think people who access free internet this way too do not breach any law. (Any expert on law correct me if I am wrong!)

Anyway this is the whole concept of having hotspots, isn't it?

As far as you are concerned if you limit your actions to browse internet only (of course without hacking into the innocent fellow's system- assuming he does not have a firewall- you too are not doing anything wrong.

If you catch a radio wave or tv stream on free air same principle apply. Those who do not want you free access to these waves will always scramble it and ask you to pay for descrambler!.

Hi,

In all EU contries is forbidden by law to connect to other networks without owner's permission.

So better not play with that network as it may belong to a company that will see you are using their network and put you in "tribunal".

Boa sorte !!

Hello.

Tanks for all the reply´s.Here in Portugal , to be honest I dont know the law concerning wireless acess, but I can see now that I should.

Any way I found that very strange not to be able to target the source of signal, and that the IP for this ISP is in Holland, while I´m located in Portugal.

So I have to make another question- is there any software to trace signal origin available?

Are you referring to computor network or Internet Service Provider.

There are many ISP's who allow anyone free accesss to Internet (mostly they have hot spots).

ISP services can be private (in which case they will control through a password & mostly a Dynamic HP addressing and in some cases Static IP addressing) or can be public.

Accessing a free to air ISP service is not a crime anywhere in the world.

Otherwise you may be charged for accessing Internet in Starbucks!

Well, I dont know.

That´s why it is a mistery!

the network i log in for free does not promt me for passwd, and is gives me a static ip for my pc.

but every time I send a email p.ex, the IP acused belong to a ISP based in Holland.

(not the IP of my computer.)

there are other tings, like , it does not allow encription of data to send files .

I would like to find out the source of this wireless network but I dont know how!

I have to admit, it is not completely clear to me what you have for a problem. But be aware that providing access to the internet for others for example in Germany, means that you are also responsible for example if child porn gets distributed by this connection....even if you knew nothing about it.....

Why you are worrying about Holland when you live in Portugal and WiFi I do not know....unless you are temporary in Holland or what......!!!

Perhaps you could make some short accurate statements to allow me to fully understand your situation and worries....

hello Andy.

I dont have much of a problem, but I´m courious to know from were cames the signal that I have in my house.

I dont have internet contracted , and I have signal from another place that I cannot find were.

theres an issue, if it is a private house or a company that have a antenna powerfull enough to the signal from it to get to my house.

if so a company, is it illegal to use the network?

and about the ISP with Holland registration, I´ve asked to know if this ISP is safe.

this is , if it is secure on privacy politics.

...but you have a wireless LAN? It is switched on and connected to your PC.

You can log in.

Therefore someone near you has an unprotected wireless LAN too.....they are stupid, you are lucky, you can log on for free, if it is legal to do so in your country at least.....

What does the Netherlands have to do with that????

Hi Andy,

Do you mean to say in an office LAN where internet access is made available to employees, if an employee misuses it to distribute child porno, the company is responsible? Who gets prosecuted in such a case company or employees (if it is a terminal which is accessed by all employees and one cannot pin point exactly who is responsible)?

Anyway I know an ISP who allows illegal material can be prosecuted.

Most sensible companies have a firewall, they know (or should know) exactly what traffic is going over their connection and from whom. We had several employees fired for doing just that, sending and receiving child pornography....

The company is responsible if they are unable to pinpoint the perpetrator!!! As it should be....

There is NO excuse for child pornography, ever......those people are just one step away from doing the same thing, they are not sane, also they are completely sick.

Nor should they be allowed the chance to damage some poor child.....

Certainly Andy I wholeheartedly agree with you on this issue. We should do our best to eradicate the evil of child porn..

My point is whom the legal authorities will prosecute in such a case! the company?

Read fully what I wrote, the company and the ISP will be prosecuted if the perpetrator cannot be identified exactly, which is why companies have software to log all transactions.

The person leaving his WIFI open and unprotected for use by others also......

Most likely one of your neighbor setup an open unsecured wireless network. Or some hacker set it up to steal info. You can use it for general browesing but never do your banking on it. Or anything involve credit card or personal info.

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