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Dark Matter

09/07/2016 11:20 AM

The search for dark matter so far has yielded nothing,after millions of dollars spent.

IMHO:

There is no dark matter.

The universe was not completely flat and featureless from the beginning.

It had bumps and dimples in it from the start.

Gas accumulated in these dimples,and compressed into stars by gravity.

The matter increased the magnitude of the dimples,causing a greater "attraction" of more matter into the depression.

This started the series of events that led to the creation of the denser forms of

matter.

Certainly,they find large amounts of bent spacetime around galaxies,that would be

expected,but I believe it started with a perturbation in primordial space time

itself,amplified by the accumulation of matter.

I am sure my idea will be ridiculed with those that know much more about this than

I do,and I willingly accept constructive criticism.

Negative,pot-shot,insulting criticism, I will take with a grain of salt, because the

researchers have job security building the Emperor's New Clothes.

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01/19/2017 6:00 PM

Not that anybody's asking, but, I "retrieved" the data (left "empty" in references at the bottom-most lines in post 199, above):

The mass of the "aether"/"fabric-of-space"/"quantum vacuum" is calculated (in one theory) to be

5.907 x 1024 tons/cc

... its acceleration is great, on the order of

6.672 x 1020 m/s2

...and the tension that it is under is (likewise-great) on the order of 5.309 x 1045 Bar

"Explained" alongside these numbers ... ("How can that be? Why doesn't all that mass exhibit gravitational effects?") ... is the concept that stars, planets, "we, ourselves", only exhibit "weight", and "attractive force" because of the "extra" matter that exists, where all of these things are...

"Wonder of Wonders"...! Theories just keep getting interestinger and interestinger ... ...

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01/20/2017 9:48 AM

If one is located in a symmetric matrix of E-M force, or gravitational force (tension), it makes no difference, because the field is symmetric. Apparently, it is not strong enough to pull us apart, or we would not be here discussing it.

Could there be a fidget with the decimal point somewhere in the calculation? Hmm?

Good thing we are not building boats to raid England with, or we would already have sinkers instead of floaters.

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09/20/2016 7:37 PM

From another angle, if there was intelligent life somewhere in the the far reaches of the Universe, and they were at a similar technical stage as us, and presumably asking very much the same questions, and looking for their own version of Dark Matter, that they hope will explain 'funny' things that to themselves seem to be happening to our galaxy from where they view us - and supposing we could talk to each other - what tests or measurements would we ask each other to carry out to help prove our theories.

To my mind, if we are both asking the same sort of questions, then the answers about their galaxy and beyond would be much the same as the answers to their questions about our galaxy and beyond.

In which case we don't need to talk to them because in the search for 'our' Dark Matter we could find the answers on our doorstep without their help.

Or have I not been paying attention and this is what the LHC is for.

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11/12/2016 5:30 PM

Once again a clever XKCD comic sums this question up very neatly.

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01/20/2017 9:50 AM

But Mr. Tesla, who put the fabric there in the first place, and left wrinkles in the bed?

Are you accusing God of not being able to bounce a dime on his sheets?

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01/20/2017 9:03 PM

Spacetime is not finished expanding yet.

Perhaps it will reach perfection when of the wrinkles have been pulled out and then the sheet will be perfect.

Cold,but perfect.

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01/20/2017 9:11 PM

Perfection is so subjective.

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01/21/2017 8:24 AM

As is truth.

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01/23/2017 10:41 AM

So is reality.And truth.

Two people can see the same thing,and have different truths.

For instance:The 3rd baseman calls the runner out.

The observer from opposite side of the field swears he was safe.

Sound takes longer to travel across the field than light,so the spectator sees the baseman touch the base before he hears the ball hit the glove.

A person high on LSD knows he can fly,so he leaps from the top of a building.

He is right,all the way down,until subjective reality meets with objective reality.

We don't know the true state of the universe,we only see how it was millions and billions of years ago.

Some of the stars we see are already burned out,and there are many beyond our visible universe that may be affecting our small visible portion.

Dark matter may be a result of something from beyond our universe,another dimension that is not visible to us.Perhaps gravity leaks across all dimensions and manifests itself as dark matter in our universe and others as as well.

Who knows?

"Not only is the universe stranger than we imagine, it is stranger than we can imagine."--Arthur Stanley Eddington,

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01/22/2017 2:47 AM

Ok, but is space-time is elastic, could it rebound?

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01/22/2017 10:35 AM

It is hard to imagine a deformation in spacetime in all dimensions,but try imagining acceleration in all dimensions.

This would satisfy as a definition of gravity.

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01/23/2017 9:05 AM

All dimensions include the following (that I know of):

x,y,z,t

px,py,pz,

but that is only seven, there are apparently four more dimensions that physics knows of, but I do not know them.

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01/23/2017 9:59 AM

Mama87 asks: "Can anyone explain px py and pz to me?"

I , too , seem to be incapable of "swallowing" some of the (supposedly "profound") "explanations" regarding the extra dimensions, theorized by so many these days.

No matter HOW hard they try to DEPICT such "imagined-so-they-must-be-real" dimensions ...

. . . I still seem to see ( everything depicted thus far ) the only way it CAN be seen: in "3D".

And yet ; I have no difficulty accepting the concepts divulged above (Post# 201)... that we exist "within" an entity much greater than we can comprehend or detect... (and, that He exists within us, as well)...

... ( until proven otherwise, which won't happen during MY existence, in THIS life...)

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01/23/2017 11:16 AM

The "p's" are the momenta axes. (At least this is how things seem to be in Q-M theory), as best as I recall.

The physicists need the 11 dimensions (apparently) in order to be able to formulate membrane theory, where other universes exist as other 'branes.

For example in another 'brane, gravity would be stronger than the strong nuclear force, and what we feel is just gravity leakage into our 'brane.

I feel as though as far as I am concerned the leakage is the other way. (out of my 'brane).

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