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Garage Door Opener Shaft Drive Conversion

12/28/2016 6:44 PM

We have a Crusader 200SS Garage door opener with a shaft drive on the door. We are trying to figure out why the motor isn't any longer powerful enough to lift the door and just hums, but if unsuccessful would like to convert a new garage door system to work with the existing shaft drive. Has anyone converted their shaft drive door to a newer motor system? How would we connect it and can it be done in-expensively? Any advice would be appreciated.

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12/28/2016 7:15 PM

Here is what we are talking about:

Screw drive residential overhead door operator.

To answer your question about compatibility: No. I started several similes, anecdotes, observations... these all ended the same: No.

If the screw drive is the big 'Wanna-Hav-It' feature, Genie, Chamberlain, Lift-Master, etc. all make one.

You've told us that Grandad has no interest in replacing the entire unit. Can you explain to us the resistance? If we know what the sacred cow is, we can (perhaps) stay away from it.

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12/28/2016 7:59 PM

I agree with the Doorman. Buy a new drive and be done with it.

IF, you have determined that the old drive motor is really defective and not just overloading during use. By your own admission, you are not technically adept at these things and these openers have not been produced since 1993.

Here's a web site: Garage Door Opener Historical Archive - Garage Door Openers USA

It may be time to go with a new one, but first JRaef comment from the other thread bears checking out.

Maybe it's a bum circuit. Does the heater work now, or is it still dead.

It may be time for an electrician to come and have a look.

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12/29/2016 4:44 PM

Another blisteringly clear set of answers from Lyn-Dor Inustries.

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12/29/2016 5:21 PM

Thank you, thank you.

It's LynDoor™, whatever that last word is Industries.

My partner, Doorman, is the brains of the operation. He knows doors left and right and up and down!

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12/29/2016 11:15 PM

I wana be the doorman at LynDoor! Send one case of Pliny a week and I'll take care of my own medical!

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12/29/2016 11:51 PM

I'll pass on your offer, thank you very much. Mind you no offense meant but that Pliny is just too fruity for me.

The brewer's web site offered this critique, "Pours clear gold with a dense creamy white foam head. Smells bready and doughy with loads of bright tropical fruit and citrusy notes of passionfruit, guava, mango, peach, papaya, grapefruit, orange peel, with floral earthy herbal grass and dank resinous pine. Tastes like passionfruit, guava, mango, peach, papaya, grapefruit, orange peel, some bready malts, with bitter floral earthy herbal grass and dank resinous pine"

If it takes that many words to describe it when would you find time to drink it, much less mind the door?

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12/30/2016 10:38 AM

Clearly that reviewer was drinking an Odwalla fruit juice! Pliny is a fine IPA.

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12/30/2016 11:01 AM

And I always thought IPA was Isopropyl Alcohol! Then I started thinking, why would anyone in their right (or wrong) mind, or even out of their mind, drink that?

I have been enlightened that this refers to India Pale Ale (developed by the Brits to survive the long voyage of transport to India). So now that I know the rest of the story, I will still with Coors.

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12/30/2016 2:30 PM

It does in the electronics industry, but not at the pub.

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12/30/2016 9:22 AM

Just don't volunteer to clean the toilets at LynDoorTM Industries. I understand things can get a little bit messy around there.

They are definitely more of a Coors establishment.

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12/29/2016 12:50 AM

"We are trying to figure out why the motor isn't any longer powerful enough to lift the door and just hums"

It's what happens when you get old. Can't lift doors like you used to and singing just takes too much effort.

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12/29/2016 4:45 PM

And I thought lifting skirts was tough!

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12/29/2016 3:49 AM

Can you operate the door manually? Maybe the motor is OK but the friction load has built up such that the motor can't cope with it. The runners & pivots may just need some lubrication.

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12/29/2016 4:26 AM

Door seems to cycle fine manually, especially after we oiled the spring and hinges. The motor just seems so weak and has such a hard time handling any torque at start up. I can stop the Pulley attached to the shaft with my hand easily after the motor has reached full speed and isn't connected to the door. I shouldn't be able to stop 1/3hp at peak rpm THAT easily. With the power it's exhibiting when not connected to the door it seems there is no way it could ever lift any door. Could this be a weak capacitor?

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12/29/2016 4:46 PM

LOOK at the circuit feeding the motor and heater (fan motor). Probably a weak breaker.

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12/30/2016 10:30 AM

Redman -

It seems you have been over analyzing your garage door opener problem! There is one suggested solution that you seem to ignore and have not responded to?

Just get a replacement for that 50 Mfd. capacitor and replace it! For about $10.00, you will save alot of time chasing your ....

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12/29/2016 10:33 PM

Is this a question from the previous post about a garage door or is the 200ss on your house and Grandpa's opener is still on the fritz ?

Maybe if we can get the previous post resolved, it can take care of this one too.

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12/29/2016 10:52 PM

If it has a run capacitor, find someone to test it.

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