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Wow. I have seen plugs in weather boxes and electrical branch connectors for conduit. They can be unscrewed later and another conduit added to a branch.

Protector - what are you protecting?

fire protection class?

Electrical plug protections could be various kinds of covers depending on the phases, volts and ampere rating? Weather rated, indoor rated?

I have no idea, but good luck out there. Appears you are in for a wild ride.

A plug is a type of fuse. They are normally paired with a breaker and need to be sized for appropriate transient currents

Thats about all i can recall

I'm not sure if this is what you mean, but a "plug fuse" is a type that screws in like a light bulb, with the same sort of threads and base dimensions. (Like antique residential fuses in appearance.)

Are you sure? A plug can also be a protective insulating formed block to protect the ports in switchgear from dust, foreign objects, that could get inadvertently pushed into a breaker port where the CB bushing would enter and make contact. Normally installed

during transporting or laying up in a storage area.

Or it could be this type of termination on Tfx's and CB's

If this ain't a plug fuse i don't know what is.

Is somebody fusing a neutral there?

I believe that's a spare fuse in there..

I was certain this wasn't what the OP was referring to. I was just trying to thresh out a proper term or description.

I agree. The lower fuse looks like it's in fuse-holder clips. The top one doesn't.

thanks for the attempt

A plug is something very different then what you guys are referring to

It has to do with damage curves of breakers and such

A breaker with a specific size plug in it will behave a certain way and have a certain type of damage curve

If i recall, its an extremely in depth part of protections design

In the context provided, this sounds to me like a winner. Don't know if this really is the answer to the question, but I'm throwing your response a GA anyway.

Especially when you consider the source - that here being some seasoned hands very likely trying to trip up the new kid with something he probably hasn't been able to experience yet.

If your employer expects you to know everything as a recent graduate (I doubt they do), they are being unrealistic. You don't learn everything in school, you learn how to learn.

Be honest and explain that you need a little time to get up to speed on AutoCad. Find a good tutorial online. Here's one:

http://www.learneasy.info/MDME/MEMmods/MEM30031A/getting_started/getting_started_files/Acad_tutes/ACT01_getting_started_basics.pdf

As long as you are working to get up to speed, I would expect they would cut you some slack.

Nearly everybody starts a job not knowing what they are doing, and the feeling is not pleasant. Do your best with whatever tasks they give you, ask questions, and learn as much as you can. That's all that you can do and all that should be expected.

I hope this helps.

When's the senior guy leaving? I hope not too soon, and I hope he's a friendly guy. If you have time, grovel a bit, fetch and run for him and be his best buddy, but learn as much as you possibly can from him before he goes.

Welcome to the real world where reality ain't anything like what they taught you and told you it would be like in school.

Unfortunately I can relate to your situation. I have been in it myself more than once.

The two things I see as being most likely are either,

The company you signed on with is experiencing growing/transitional pains due to a knowledgeable senior employee leaving and it's now very painfully clear to management they have no backup plan to deal with it so it's getting dumped on you in a weak attempt to fill the void that's about to open up or,

It has become apparent that someone in upper levels has bitten off far more than they can chew through their own lies and BS and they need a scapegoat to pin the blame for their unavoidable failure on in order to keep their job and that person is you.

Either way never be afraid to point out when you are in over your head and need help nor be afraid to point out you have been tossed into a position that is way beyond what your education and 'as hired for' job description said you would be doing.

Do your best but keep as much of whatever happens documented just in case you need to cover your butt later and rat out someone above you who had intended to set you up to take his fall right from the get go. (That happens a lot to young new guys because they, experienced management, can largely get away with it as a way to hide their own mistakes.)

That, and if you have access to any software or resources you can use or copy at your discretion that could ever be of future use to you to defend or use yourself for personal whatever's take what you can! You never know what future work you may find for yourself where having that stuff for personal use will pay off for any losses you took on while employed anywhere.

Thank you very much guys

The description of a plug above was exactly what i was trying to remember

thanks for the words of wisdom. Glad to know everyone has been here a time or 2.

I wont have any trouble making a bunch of mistakes that part will be easy haha

Thanks for saying "Thanks." Not many who come here do. :(

Good luck. I hope CR4 will be a good resource for you, and also hope you will return the favor in time.

That plug is one of those things that get aliased in use from its proper name. Lesson #2 - call it what it is (when you can).

Another thing: Do your job in the most unattached and professional way you can, be friendly, but keep your personal emotions out of the job when possible. No one will ever really ask you to do more than your best, since that is illogical.

The old adage: "If you don't make any mistakes, or break anything, you are not trying hard enough." comes to mind.

Uplifting story...sounds a little like mine....

ill certainly let you guys know how i make out

thanks for the cheering up

Make Out? Why do I need to know you made out? Dose she know about you?

Correction as I know 'Mericans have trouble when you leave for over seas.

Participants and colleagues, I shall keep you informed of progress and the final outcome to my dilemma.

Now does that not read and sound far better than 'making out'. If you want to get really happy, go make out!

Great stories. The last company i worked for had me doing OT+++.. I ran jobs all over from automation to security of commercial and ultra high end residential. I got the goofiest old truck and trainees. When i graduated night school it went unnoticed. When they paired me with a smooth talking fellow that was a former cable co employee. He knew jack about our work while i had started there with years of experience and ability. i was ok with it until i learned he was making $5 an hour more than I. I gave my notice (refused the offer for a raise) and started my own company. In time they went out of business because of nepotism and shortsightedness.

Follow the good advice your getting and you'll do great.

I can see you followed your own wandering star. Good.

I used to install C-band satellites. I liked it but the market went out from under me.

Ha.. I used to uninstall C-band satellites.

nothing personal

This wasn't mentioned anywhere in the specific conversation above, but in general I would suggest that you develop your reference library. It may take some investment, but a lot is free online. I'm sure the audience here can recommend a variety of resources in addition to those I am going to list:

The IEEE "Color" series of standards ("Red Book" Std 141-1993 or if there's newer version Electric Power Distribution; "Brown Book" Std 399-1997 Power Systems Analysis; "Buff Book" Protection & Coordination; "Green Book," etc.) - These will cost you some, but worth it.

Download the free "Design Guide for Rural Substations" https://www.rd.usda.gov/files/UEP_Bulletin_1724E-300.pdf

Download GE/Multilin's free "Art & Science of Protective Relaying" http://www.gegridsolutions.com/multilin/notes/artsci/index.htm

Anixter's "Wire & Cable Technical Information Handbook" https://www.anixter.com/en_us/resources/literature/technical-references/wire-and-cable-technical-information-handbook.html

ABB's "Hard to Find Info About Distribution Systems" https://library.e.abb.com/public/91ad3a29a50978bf85256c550053db0d/Hard.To.Find.6th.pdf

These will get you started, and you should also collect all the manufacturers' catalogs and application guides that you can.

Raeph gave a very good plug on CB plugs...

As an employer - I appreciated honesty - I don't know - can you direct me to the information and I will learn.

I fired those that gave me BS and either told me they knew when they didn't , or the most dangerous was the person who thought they knew and did not.

I can handle honest mistakes.

Do not compromise safety.

Be willing to learn on your own time - "9 to 5" employees who will not increase their knowledge on their own time are freeloading.

If you are honest, continue to learn on your own time, work diligently while at work, and do not "back talk" - you will probably hang in there.

Thank you Gentlemen

It was one of my jobs at Boeing Aerospace to introduce new engineers to the Boeing world.

It shocked my as to the lack of abilities that most graduates have, just out of college.

My suggestion is to ASK the people there , get opinions, methods and such. The greatest wealth of information comes from the people on the floor doing the job.

If you want to know how a broom works do not ask the salesman of the broom or the guy that designed the broom. You ask the guy using the broom.

I agree, but before anything else, be keen and observant and common sense dictates, if you got an IQ of 130 it would be easy. Never ask a grumpy guy nonsensical stuff or you would be directed to google.

Use your head and eyes most often, hands and ears, but just a little with the mouth. It'll save you a lot of trouble.

"If you want to know how a broom works do not ask the salesman of the broom or the guy that designed the broom. You ask the guy using the broom."

Yet how many of use have worked some place where it was painfully obvious not one single person in the company knew how to properly use the metaphorical broom to begin with?

Or if you do show you know how to use said metaphorical broom it put you on someones shitlist for having made them look bad for their not knowing something that should have been painfully obvious common knowledge in that work environment?

Been there done both more than once.