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Transmitter with Transient Protector

07/22/2017 5:38 AM

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Some times there is an optional order code found while selecting transmitter for process instruments:With transient protection/or with out transient protection.Is there any consideration for selecting electronic circuit/transmitter with or without this option?

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Re: Transmitter with Transient Protector

07/22/2017 11:13 AM

Well I think you would need protection from transient voltages in almost any application except perhaps where you had an engineered alternative system already in place...

https://www.pepperl-fuchs.com/global/en/classid_266.htm

http://www.emerson.com/documents/automation/87540.pdf

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Re: Transmitter with Transient Protector

07/22/2017 2:24 PM

Yes, and it will be found in the selection protocols determined by the organisation in question. None of those can be seen from here.

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Re: Transmitter with Transient Protector

07/22/2017 3:36 PM

Based on a half dozen experiences with near-lightning strikes to instrumentation, I find that transmitters located outdoors in areas frequented by lightning are those that need surge protection. In only two cases did the transmitters have surge protection. In the one case, the surge protection blew up but saved the transmitter electronics, in the other case the transmitter was damaged beyond repair. In the other four cases, transmitters had no surge protection and the electronics were destroyed, presumably by a near lightning strike.

I work in a area where spring summer and fall have common thunder lightning storms, and lightning in the winter tends to be rare, but not unknown.

I'm sure that somewhere in the world, there are locations that rarely, if ever, get lightning.

I routinely use two RS-485 isolators on Modbus RTU RS-485 network comm lines

a. to protect the master from an electrical fault or lightning affecting the 485 network

b. to isolate and protect half the devices on a multidrop network, in case of an electrical fault or lightning affecting the 485 network.

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Re: Transmitter with Transient Protector

07/23/2017 8:48 AM

You must have a transient protector.

If you do not have it, buy the device with it. If you already have a transient protector, then buy the device without it.

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Re: Transmitter with Transient Protector

07/24/2017 12:22 PM

Yes, there is a strong consideration. I would order using the transient protection code. It will not hurt to have it on top of other transient protection that might be on the supply wiring circuit. On the other hand, if none exists "out there", and you order without protection, you are putting a lamb out with the wolves.

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