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Specific Humidity and Evaporation Loss

05/08/2018 5:53 AM

How is the difference in Specific Humidity and Evaporation loss related to each other?

I read in Ashrae journal that the mass transfer (evaporation loss) occurs only in the latent portion of heat transfer and is proportional to change in specific humidity.

Is their any equation to calculate Specific Humidity if Dry Bulb temperature and %RH are known. We can use the Psychrometric chart also, but i am looking for an equation.

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05/08/2018 10:11 AM

Specific humidity is the number of grams of water per kilogram of air. Heating or cooling of the air doesn't change this value.

https://www.britannica.com/science/specific-humidity

At any given temperature, water has a vapor pressure. When the partial pressure of water vapor in the air equals the vapor pressure, as much water condenses back into liquid as evaporates from the liquid, and the RH is 100 percent.

Water evaporates from the wet-bulb of a sling hygrometer, cooling it to the temperature at which the partial pressure of water vapor in the air equals the vapor pressure of water at the wet bulb temperature (equilibrium). Thus, if you know the vapor pressure of water at the wet bulb temperature and the vapor pressure of water at the dry bulb temperature (air temperature), the ratio of these pressures is the relative humidity.

The vapor pressure of water can be approximated by the following formula:

where P is the vapor pressure in mmHg and T is the temperature in kelvins.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vapour_pressure_of_water

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05/08/2018 2:48 PM

Thanks, somehow my formula got severely downsized!

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05/08/2018 5:33 PM

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05/09/2018 9:26 AM

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05/09/2018 11:03 AM

Once relative humidity reaches 100%, or when wet bulb temperature reaches dry bulb temperature, <...Evaporation...> stops; at this point <...Specific Humidity...>is irrelevant.

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Re: Specific Humidity and Evaporation Loss

05/10/2018 6:30 AM

You can calculate Specific Humidity. Assuming you're talking about water in air, there are formulas giving saturated vapour pressure of water as function of temperature. One has been posted in this thread, another is the Antoine equation. Then Specific Humidity, gm water vapour/kg air

= RH*Psat*18/29.3 where

RH = relative humidity, as a fraction

Psat = saturated vapour pressure, mbar

18 = molecular mass of water. 29.3 = molecular mass of air.

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05/10/2018 7:47 AM

The rate of evaporation at a given place is always dependent on the humidity of that place because if the air is already filled with water vapour, it will not have any place to hold excess vapour and therefore, evaporation will occur at an extremely slow rate.

Relative humidity is also sometimes defined as the ratio of actual vapor pressure of an area to the maximum vapor pressure. Vapor pressure is measured by the amount of water vapor in a given volume of air, and it increases as the vapor increases.

When the vapor pressure increases and reaches the maximum limit in a given volume of air, a state of equilibrium arises. In this state, an amount of water is getting evaporated and the same amount of vapor is getting condensed to form water again.

Thus, evaporation never really ceases to occur on any given surface of water. Depending on the relative humidity of the surrounding air, the evaporation rate increases or decreases or reaches an equilibrium state where evaporation and condensation are occurring at the same pace.

As humidity is dependent on temperature, wind and other factors, these factors affect evaporation too. There are a multitude of factors, including relative humidity, that govern the process of evaporation whether it is occurring at a small laboratory or over the surface of a huge water body like a lake or ocean.

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Re: Specific Humidity and Evaporation Loss

05/11/2018 4:21 AM

There seems to be some confused thinking here.

I don't know what you mean by "....occurs only in the latent portion of heat transfer". Evaporation requires heat input due to the latent heat of evaporation. The heat input can be from an external source or by cooling of the remaining mass of water.

Also "......proportional to the change in specific humidity". I suppose you mean the difference in actual specific humidity of the air, and the saturation specific humidity at the air temperature. That sounds reasonable, but I wouldn't know offhand if it's true.

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