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Baldor DC Drive Series 20H

05/26/2018 7:18 PM

Somebody that can help me with the next problem,

I have a Baldor DC Drive 20H on a graphics machine and now it no working

After a line interrupt the equipment indicated, with the stopped motor,

REV 3606 RPM

The equipment is feedbacked for armature voltage

The armature voltage is near to zero (0,145 Voltios DC), then the feedback circuit is damaged

I need if anybody have information, circuit diagram or similar experiences can help me

Thank in advance

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Re: Baldor DC Drive Series 20H

05/26/2018 8:24 PM

Found this....not much information to go by....

http://www.gain-control.com/Manuals/20H.pdf

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Re: Baldor DC Drive Series 20H

05/27/2018 10:43 PM

Thank SolarEagle, JRaef

I have the manual but there is no information about this particular point

May be a possible solution be a new way of feedback, by tachometer o encoder if I cant not solve this issue

It would be useful for me to have circuital diagram or someone who has a similar problems

Anyway all help is welcome

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Re: Baldor DC Drive Series 20H

05/28/2018 10:38 PM

All dc drives will be very similar in the basics needed to control the motor. This is a very simple and non-demanding application, especially if not needing tach feedback.

If you follow the motor wiring back into the drive, you will find a shunt (resistor developing a millivolt level voltage proportional to armature current) to measure the current in series with one of the armature leads. Near these connections will be a couple of high voltage wires that will connect to a voltage divider resistor network, connected across the two armature leads. Follow those wires back and make sure there are no open circuits in the resistor wiring, or resistors. This is the dc motor voltage sensing feedback (CEMF) that you appear to be missing. The voltage sensing will be a 3rd wire going to the control circuitry.

It is unlikely that the drive will be able to be configured to ignore the lack of motor voltage (CEMF) feedback, so changing the regulation to speed feedback is unlikely to be the fix you need.

However, it is a simple task to replace the drive, if parts are not available, however the frame size you have appears to be large enough to warrant a repair. Make sure you have a record of the value of each parameter before proceeding, either repair or replace. ABB makes a good DC drive if you have good local support, otherwise pick a manufacturer who does give you good support and a good price.

https://www.baldor.com/brands/baldor-reliance/products/drives/dc-drives

https://www.baldor.com/Shared/manuals/720-101.pdf

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Re: Baldor DC Drive Series 20H

06/01/2018 8:36 PM

Thanks rwilliams, you answer is very good

I follow the wiring back into the drive, I found the resistor divider, then un isolator amplifier A7800, then un TL082,then I lose the way of the feedback

Everything seem to work well but there is ahead a test point where is measured the armature voltage feedback and there are 0(zero) Volts when should be 2,5 Volts to 0 volts de armature voltage

It is dato of manual, on the test point is

0 Volt belong. Reverse 1000 voltios

2,5 volt belong. 0 voltios

5 Volts belong. forward 1000 Voltios

I have doubt with the A7800.

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Re: Baldor DC Drive Series 20H

06/03/2018 6:25 PM

You could check the values of the resistors around the A7800, I have found more problems with passive components/solder connections than OP amps, for instance, but sometimes they do fail. Electrolytic capacitors if any nearby in the circuit do age out, may be affecting your circuit even if just on power supply connection.

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Re: Baldor DC Drive Series 20H

05/26/2018 10:14 PM

Baldor is now owned by ABB. I’ve not had much luck getting them (ABB) to provide support for older Baldor products, but you might get lucky.

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Re: Baldor DC Drive Series 20H

06/16/2018 3:00 PM

Finally me together with another electronic technician have replaced the A7800 and a Op Amp TL082 in the way of sample of armature voltage.

Then the equipment working well fortunately

Thank everyone, especially to rwilliams for his good advice

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