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Query About Voltage Drop in Impedance

07/16/2018 7:17 AM

hi all,

i want to do simple load flow and calculate voltage drop across the impedance of (r=0 Ω and x=5 Ω) as shown in attached picture. As i know voltage drop across the impedance must be I*Z but Etap drop and manual calculation is not match. So please give the way that what actually shows by Etap at impedance, is this the real value or my manual calculation is mistake. Thank you for your consideration.

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07/16/2018 9:40 AM

I don't see in your diagram what r, x, and Z represent. If r is your cabling resistance then r≠0 unless your transmission line uses only superconducting materials. It can be r≈0 and with the few significant figures that are shown in your diagram one may make this plausible assumption and therefore no voltage drop will exist.

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07/16/2018 10:58 AM

Thank You, i want to know, suppose we put r=1Ω and x= 5 Ω then the drop in cable or impedance should be = (I∠ø) * (r+jx) but this value is not matched with Etap drop. Please refer attached picture for more clarification.

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07/17/2018 9:41 AM

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07/18/2018 9:14 AM

Your 83.6V or 778V appears to be the arithmetic difference between source and load voltages i.e. the regulation in volts. It is not the vector difference corresponding to the line impedance 2 + j10 you have "forced in" over the libary data for XLPE cable.

I am puzzled that 244? amps go into line & only 146? amps come out! You do not have any line capacitance to cause a difference.

If even Kirchoff's law does not apply, one cannot trust a calculation.

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07/18/2018 12:10 PM

Thank You, its not about library value same thing is happen when i use impedance element provided Etap with same value of impedance 2+10i. So please tell me how i can calculate manually and show same value in etap for voltage drop in cable or impedance for given 2+10i impedance and load of 3MVA at unity power factor in 11 kv system. That is a series circuit of 11 kv source, a impedance and a load of above value.

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07/18/2018 5:36 PM

When you have 244 amp going into cable & 146 amp coming out, you have a fundamental problem.

It is not possible for a remote person to tell which of the values on your diagram are written on by you or if they are calculated by the program.

I note that 244 A x 10222V = 2497 kW:146 A x 10222V x √3 = 2585 kW. Diagram too small to read voltage at load with confidence.

The right hand figure is correct for 3 phase, 3 wire balanced system. Are you hand-calculating assuming 11000V,single phase to get current of 244 amp??

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07/16/2018 10:02 AM

What formula did you use and what calculation does not match? A table showing the results of the manual calculation compared to the automated result would help pinpoint the nature of the discrepancy. The numbers on the SLD look correct.

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07/16/2018 11:19 PM

I don't know why #3 was off-topic since it contains some clues as to where the problem lies. First, the impedance between the busses has changed significantly, resulting in a much larger voltage drop. Second, you still have not provided the manual calculations and the comparison with the Etap results, nor any of your reasoning for the perceived discrepancy.

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