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Braking Calculation For Go Cart

11/01/2018 12:55 PM

we have participated in a national event "ECOCART" . i have alloted braking section .

according to our rulebook,

our kart's maximum speed- 57 km/h

tyre radius -0.254 metre(5 inch)

mass of our vehicle(including driver)-180 kg

Min.ground clearance-2 inches

so we have a restriction of rotor size(not more than 170 mm)

So can anyone give me idea regarding with these condition....

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11/01/2018 1:29 PM

So basically you need to know how much rotor surface you need to stop in the allotted distance...

https://cr4.globalspec.com/thread/104584/Braking-Calculation-for-Go-Kart

http://www.ijeter.everscience.org/Manuscripts/Volume-5/Issue-11/Vol-5-issue-11-M-10.pdf

Are you allowed both front and rear brakes?

https://www.gokartsupply.com/discbr.htm

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11/01/2018 1:31 PM

What have you got so far?

Is this, in actuality, the All Indian Eco Kart Competition?

If yes, there are many articles regarding brakes on Quora. From what I read, additional points are awarded for clever design and elegant fabrication in addition to the performance criterion that you listed.

If the elegance is not required, you can simply apply interference pressure to the tires with wood blocks and a lever system.

I believe that somewhere in the videos that I skimmed someone suggested disc brakes on all four corners - extra braking and extra design points.

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11/01/2018 6:04 PM

0.254m = 10"; or did you mean tyre diameter?

There are so many variables involved that calculation might not be helpful. Instead, just go for empirical results.

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11/01/2018 6:59 PM

I tend to agree, just go with the components that are commonly used, then you have the brake pad type as a variable...some pads will have more bite than others, same thing with cars, you want to improve your braking, replace the pads with more aggressive bite...then as a next step go with larger rotors and more brake pad area....not possible in your case...

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11/02/2018 9:55 AM

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11/02/2018 4:33 PM

The limitation is where the rubber meets the road.

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11/02/2018 10:10 PM

Getting an exact answer takes away from the fun and learning on what works best for your setup.

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11/02/2018 11:40 PM

Divyanshu, could you post a picture of your entry.

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11/03/2018 12:21 PM

We are not going to hear from this guy again.

He has viewed the thread at least twice, most recently a few hours ago.

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11/03/2018 10:52 PM

You are way over-thinking this. A standard kart brake system will easily lock the wheels, which is more than enough braking action. You don't need to design anything new. As previously mentioned by redfred, the coefficient of friction between the tire and road is what counts--as well as your driver.

The requirements really don't make any sense at all. You have 50 meters between lines 1 & 2, but only 4 meters between lines 2 & 3 (which is where the stopping takes place). I didn't see any requirement for the speed for crossing the second line. You mentioned that your cart has a top speed of 57 km/h, but what speed will you cross the second line at? How do you determine that you're decelerating at .5 m/s/s when you get to the second line? Will you have an accelerometer on the kart? A whistle blow to signal the start of braking?

Geez, this sounds like an engineer came up with this nonsense!

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11/04/2018 8:40 AM

Pretty reasonable answer except for the bit, "Geez, this sounds like an engineer came up with this nonsense!"

Whoever wrote the test, and it's reasonable that there is one, is both inarticulate and technically incompetent. He or she very clearly not any sort of engineer - or maybe is playing with us all.

It's pretty funny really, think about it - a test where someone responds to a whistle and has to stop between two lines that only about 0.24 seconds apart, and by my reading, if the third line is crossed by even 1 mm then there is 100 point penalty and exactly the same is if they overshot by up to 2m. Then on top of that nonsense, the subject vehicle is allowed to qualify even if it exhibits some sort of yaw of up to 60 deg, as long as they don't "run off the track........really!!!

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