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FUSE BLOWIN UP!!!

10/04/2007 5:46 AM

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our heated clothing system is current controlled using a smart variable controller. this could sustain a 15 volt input and the garment draws 4 amps. the controller is provided by a 10A fuse. i tried connecting pair of gloves and the garment in parallel using a 'y' power splitter from my bike's power source whin in total draws roughly above 5 A.For some reason the fuse blows up after a brief time. Using a different controller I tried to vary the input. i was amazed to see that on high power input,the system seems to work perfectly flawless, but once i decrease it below a certain level, the feed display show variations in current level;to be more specific its getting shorted. i used 24 AWG cable with length of 150cm for the gloves round my arms. what could be the reason of shorting? where could be the flaw? fish me out guys!!!

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10/04/2007 7:59 AM

Can you see the fuse filament?

The way the filament opens can give a very good guide as to what is happening, if the filament is vapourised end to end then it was a severe overload many times the rating of the fuse, if the filament appears to have only just opened with a small blob on the filament ends then its a tiny overload...

Its surprising what you can tell from inspecting the filament, it can save a lot of time when the fuse has just failed because it is getting old and has been slightly operating at its rated current or been pulsed at its current etc...

John.

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Re: FUSE BLOWIN UP!!!

10/04/2007 8:03 AM

Hold on.... you say the controller can only with stand a 15 volt supply?!!

A car or bikes supply can easily produce over 60 volt surges!!!

When I worked on car electronic control units we had to have massive surge suppresion at every signal and power inlet, everything had to be rated to expect the worst of well over 30 volts spikes on the supply...

That could be your problem! John.

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Re: FUSE BLOWIN UP!!!

10/05/2007 12:16 AM

Another thing you could look at in the surges area is watch the fuse wire, sometimes, they will "pulse", not to blowing, but give a definite movement as it heats and cools due to the current flow.

I'm not sure of the source, but some fuses I have had had glowed like a light globe, but not blow, strange.

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10/06/2007 3:34 PM

"slow blow" fuse usually glow emitting light before oppening up (blowing) these actually form a part of current limiter , but high boost pulses can blow them up

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10/05/2007 10:06 AM

Fuses don't care about voltage, they only care about amperage.

On a simple heating load, you can limit the amperage by changing the voltage. A complex load, like a motor for instance, will increase its amperage draw as you lower the voltage. But that is not applicable in this case...you have an intermittent dead short somewhere.

Your "smart controller" might be the problem. Some power supplies have what is called "crowbar protection" which react to certain load conditions by blowing the fuse before the over current will damage the load. By dropping an electronic "crowbar" onto the output of the controller, so to speak. This would be normal for a power supply which is being driven close to the edge...random spikes from the generator might well be interpretted by the controller as "danger", and it will shut down in the quickest way possible. Check the "ground fault interrupter" circuitry of the smart controller.

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10/05/2007 2:14 PM

I am puzzled as in my mind it could still be the drop in voltage as some engines, like the lazy v-twins from Harley, will sometimes have bery low tick-over speeds and the "low charge" light might even come on or flicker. If that is the case could this drop not cause the fuse to blow as the load stays the same. If it is near the edge anyway this could perhaps push it over the edge??? Not sure as it is not my strongest point but could it also have to do with the rating of the fuse, i.e. fast or slow blowing?

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