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Dual Voltage and Single Voltage MCB

01/21/2019 6:58 AM

what is the technical difference between dual voltage and single voltage MCBs?

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01/21/2019 7:07 AM

The type-test regime.

Oh, and the knob is a different shape.

Is there a prize for getting it right?

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01/21/2019 8:15 AM

Here is a link that gives a very good explanation per the NEC:

https://www.ecmweb.com/content/understanding-circuit-breaker-markings

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01/23/2019 4:14 AM

could you please explain reason to say that "Single-pole breakers are always slash rated"?

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01/21/2019 8:19 AM

What was the outcome of the various telephone calls to the manufacturers?

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01/21/2019 10:23 AM

You have to read the manufacturer's data sheets (aka cut sheet) on the product to truly know what is the technical difference. This document will also allow you to decrypt the other cryptic markings that will identify critical factors like time to trip, temperature range, arc flash limit, environment, etc. Many vendors will make it easy to locate this document.

I suspect the dual voltages of the MK breaker identify the maximum voltage the breaker can safely interrupt under overload condition for DC (230V) and AC (400V~).

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01/21/2019 1:29 PM

I never heard of any dual-voltage circuit breaker...If you're referring to the voltage range of 230v- 400v, that is because the breaker is designed for use with circuits with inductive and capacitive loads ...

..."In the case of Type C MCBs, the magnetic operating limits are between 5 and 10 times the current rating of the MCB. Under these conditions the mechanism of a 10A MCB will operate between 50A and 100A in an overcurrent situation. Type C devices are capable of supplying the majority of inductive and capacitive loads such as motors, transformers and tungsten or fluorescent lighting."...

https://storage.electrika.com/manu/man-0290/pdftech/0290-mk49-16-a-581-585.pdf

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01/21/2019 2:23 PM

The reason for the marking is to indicate that they can be installed in either a single-phase 230V system (as found in most houses here) or in a 400V-3-phase system. If they are not so marked, then they cannot be used in the 3-phase.

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01/21/2019 5:00 PM

Excerpt from the NEC concerning circuit breaker markings.

This should clear up the confusion:

What you don’t know about circuit breaker markings can trip you up.

Most of us pay little attention to markings on circuit breakers. Yet, these markings can be the difference between a safe installation and an unsafe one. So what does the information on this label mean? Let's look at each item in detail to ensure your installation is as safe as it should be.

Overcurrent rating [Sec. 240.83(A)]*. This piece of information appears on the label, but most people understand the overcurrent ampere markings (such as 20A, 30A, or 100A) for the protection of conductors and equipment in accordance with Sec. 240.4, so we won't discuss them here.

Interrupting rating [Sec. 240.83(C)]. Interrupting ratings like 10K, 22.5K, and 65K rms ensure the breaker has an interrupting rating sufficient for the maximum possible fault current available on the line side terminals of the equipment. If the breaker doesn't have a suitable interrupting rating for the available fault current, it could explode while attempting to clear a fault, or downstream equipment could suffer serious damage and endanger people.

Voltage Rating [Secs. 240.83(E) and 240.85]. Breakers are marked with either a slash or straight system voltage rating that indicates their capability to interrupt fault currents.

Voltage markings for breakers with slash voltage ratings are separated by a slash — for example, 208/120V or 480/277V. Each pole of the breaker is suitable when the line-to-ground voltage does not exceed the lower voltage marking, while the higher voltage marking is the value the line-to-line voltage may not exceed. Single-pole breakers are always slash rated.

Although the Code permits you to install a 120/240V slash-rated breaker on a 120/240V 3-phase, high-leg delta system, you cannot install it on the “B” phase (high-leg), because the nominal line-to-ground voltage of the high-leg is 208V. This exceeds the 120V line-to-ground voltage rating of the 120/240V slash breaker.

Be careful when installing slash-rated breakers on a solidly grounded high-leg delta system. Do not install them on corner-grounded, resistance-grounded, or ungrounded systems.

You cannot use a slash-rated 480/277V breaker on a 480V corner-grounded delta circuit because the line-to-ground voltage from two of the conductors would be as high as 480V. This exceeds the breaker's 277V line-to-ground voltage rating.

Two-pole breakers can be either slash or straight voltage-rated, whereas 3-pole breakers are all straight voltage-rated.

Temperature Rating [Sec. 110.14(C)]. You must size conductors to the lowest temperature rating marking on the breaker. For all practical purposes, conductors for circuit breakers are sized based on the 75°C column of Table 310.16.

Installing the wrong breaker can be disastrous, so read your breaker's markings before installation and make sure it's the right one.

* All Code references come from the 2002 NEC.

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01/21/2019 9:09 PM

In other words, there's no difference except the marking. Dual voltages markings are just 3ph phase-to-neutral / phase-to-phase voltage. In the example, 230/400, 400v = 230v x sqrt(3).

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01/22/2019 6:47 PM

Wrong! Read and understand the National Electrical Code (NEC) article above to find out why.

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01/23/2019 4:33 PM

You are correct, should be "ground", not "neutral". Thanks.

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01/23/2019 4:21 AM

The breaker doesn’t know about the neutral, though.

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Re: Dual Voltage and Single Voltage MCB

01/22/2019 4:15 AM

The single voltage rated MCBs are acceptable for line to line or line to neutral loads at voltages up to 240 VAC.
The double voltage rated MCBs are acceptable for line to neutral loads at voltages up to 230 VAC, and line to line voltages up to 400 VAC.

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01/22/2019 6:45 PM

WRONG! The article above clearly explains the difference.

The breaker must be able to clear a fault to GROUND,as well as a line to line fault, and ground is not the same as NEUTRAL.

The lower voltage rating is the rating of the voltage to GROUND.

People tend to think of neutral and ground as the same,but they are not.

The higher voltage is the rating LINE to LINE.

Keep these facts in mind when you read the NEC article above.

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01/22/2019 7:31 AM

Please read carefully the quote from the NEC:

"Voltage markings for breakers with slash voltage ratings are separated by a slash — for example, 208/120V or 480/277V. Each pole of the breaker is suitable when the line-to-ground voltage does not exceed the lower voltage marking, while the higher voltage marking is the value the line-to-line voltage may not exceed. Single-pole breakers are always slash rated."

Line to neutral is not the same as line-to-ground.

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01/26/2019 6:22 AM

what are the instances where line-to-ground voltage and line-to-neutral voltage difference matters?

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01/27/2019 3:45 AM

Read and understand the following from my previous post.

"Although the Code permits you to install a 120/240V slash-rated breaker on a 120/240V 3-phase, high-leg delta system, you cannot install it on the “B” phase (high-leg), because the nominal line-to-ground voltage of the high-leg is 208V. This exceeds the 120V line-to-ground voltage rating of the 120/240V slash breaker.

Be careful when installing slash-rated breakers on a solidly grounded high-leg delta system. Do not install them on corner-grounded, resistance-grounded, or ungrounded systems."

"You cannot use a slash-rated 480/277V breaker on a 480V corner-grounded delta circuit because the line-to-ground voltage from two of the conductors would be as high as 480V. This exceeds the breaker's 277V line-to-ground voltage rating."

Check these link for more info.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-leg_delta

corner-grounded, resistance-grounded, or ungrounded systems.

https://ctlsys.com/support/electrical_service_types_and_voltages/

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01/22/2019 11:39 AM

There is 400V, 3-ph system with 230V as Ph-N voltage and then, there is 690V, 3-ph system with 400V as Ph-N voltage.

The dual voltage rating I think means that the single pole MCB can be used in either of the systems.

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01/22/2019 6:53 PM

What you think is wrong.

Read the article from the NEC(National Electrical Ccde).

This explains it very clearly.

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01/22/2019 11:23 PM

Thanks for correcting me.

It means that the single pole breakers rated 400/230V can be installed only in 400V neutral point earthed systems where Phase-to-ground voltage during healthy conditions doesn't go beyond 230V.

In case of single phase to ground fault, the unfaulted phase to ground voltage may go over 230V (until the fault is cleared) but that is not a concern.

Hope I have understood correctly.

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