Encoding Hologram On Photon

Is this New Age Engineering? Wheeo! What a concept!

I would think that the biggest issue is in trusting the "other beings" to accurately (and truthfully!?) encode the photons. We could be the brunt of a cosmic JOKE at best and leave ourselves wide-open to invasion at the worst.

By the way, do you have any references (theory, supporting math, etc.) for your idea?

-m-

Thanks, but see my post.

Btw, I used to work at McDonald Observatory. The observatory site is in Ft. Davis, TX. I worked at McDonald HQ at the University of Texas in Austin. (Steven Weinberg worked several floors below mine at RLM). I've also made a number of holograms of everyday objects. One is of my Accutron watch as viewed through a magnifying glass! That one, especially, turned out quite well. Remember the Accutron Spaceview?

I don't specifically recall seeing the hologram but I do visit NASA's science sites often. I am specifically looking for the latest and greatest with the plasma rocket turned fusion rocket. I was under the impression they were building a magnetic mirror fusion rocket but the latest I can find is back in early 90's. My guess is that the subsequent work has gone under the cloak of secrecy. I do find some mention and hints in some university papers. It is my understanding that the P+He³ fusion produces copious amounts of electric power as well as mechanical thrust with no neutron radiation to contend with. If this is true, than it could be an interim fusion energy power source right here on earth and well as the launch rocket for very large scale space exploration vehicles. The one fly in the ointment is the lack of He³ on earth but the moon seems to have a plentiful supply which could (can) be minded. I do believe that teh Boron fusion reaction is also being investigated and is also neutron radiation free. In that case, who needs space elevators?

Your whir. Now I know why you communicate with me at all. Sorry I missed this post till now. Seems that you are aware of the site link to the space elevator site.

I am incapable at this point of really understanding equations. P+He3 is not understandable to me.

Is He3 darkmatter?

If the stuff is on the Moon it makes some excuse to go there, since Earth is the best place to be.

Science ficiton and science have proved that outerspace is not a vacation destination. Mars is not a vacation resort or much of a destination at all.

I am for building a support for a brain and mind out of geneticlly modified materials in recognition that some may see this as a heresy. My justification for building a genetically engineered being capable of living on Mars, is that I've suffered in my body and mind being created however it was I was, here on Earth, which is actually deadly for beings that weren't made from here to be here.

The battery discussion and question about simple powerful batteries and then the SepticTank battery, cell, that comes up as a sewage water fuel cell design of Vanter and his company means to me I am in the mindweather.

Last I knew of computers the most powerful would be those that had a liquid filled vessel that made the sort of connections a brain does.

There is a science of Artificial Intelligence, but it is supposed to be "pure" and have no biology,from what I know. The progress in academia has seemed to lead to a fusion of biology and chemistry so as to blur the separations between them.

At this point I am convinced we have the technology, and that my work now is to decide on The Systems to implement the technology.

Hence it is that I am unlikely to ever file or post on this site as a Guest, which may be a member filing anonoymously. - Once you go as far as to endorse the creation of a liquid brain, you have crossed the line.

For us, I have decided that here,the solution for the gobal warming that threatens us, is that we stop burning trees, and oil and whatever else we find around to burn,and go to an urbanized electric infrastructure grid system powered by geothermal, solar and tide scavenged forces.

The effciency of trains and my past with slotcars, combined with my perceptions of the present and the ambitions of individuals in China, plus my love of the Bible and the IChing, recommend power rails and switching junctions for slotcars made big enough to carry me and my family.

The thing to do would to make the anonoymous system that sensed the vehicles movements on the grid, but hid the identity of the vehicles.

The obviating factor in the mix would be the license plate.

Japanese history has two instances of success that I wonder how to apply to the current crisis in civilization and our time. One was the outlawing of firearms that lasted 200 years from the 1300s to the 1500s. The other is the maintainance of their forests.

If you cut down all your trees and destroy your water, your civilization is doomed.

The skew of more powerful weapons in the hands of mercenaries is an issue that now must be more examined and addressed than even when the Japanese outlawed firearms in relation to Weapons of Mass Destruction like the Atomic Bomb.

It is a very sad thing that the two edged sword of Nuclear Power and its corruption as becomes a Bomb, inhibit Nuclear Power so much when humanity actually needs the power to run its infrastructure during this transitional and dangerous time.

Over the long haul nuclear power will always have value in regard to planet protection, but has no value as a war weapon between nations or tribes anymore, even though it did have value during a particular period called The Cold War.

We need Space Elevators since the Space Station is flawed by its stresses on humans in too long weightless conditions.

The calicum losses and other physiological impacts on the body by being weightless are equivalent to being debilitated by something similar to when I fell a story and landed on a slab of concrete.

not even close, He is helium. It's normal isotope is two protons and two neutrons, thus, He⁴. He³ is two protons and one neutron and is very, very scarce on Earth. However, our Moon expeditions found large quantities of He³. The P is actually Hydrogen without its electron, thus a plasma. It does, under high pressure and temperature, million or more degree, as created with a linear magnetic mirror fuse to produce He⁴ and many megavolts of energy, far more than our conventional rockets of today. The one beauty of this fusion reaction is that it does NOT produce any high energy Neutrons nor any other residual radiation. In addition, it does produce large amounts of electrical power and would be a major candidate for generating fusion energy here on earth except for the lack of He³.

As for computers, Nanotechnology has taken us to the threshold of quantum computing. In addition, it seems that nanobots are likely to be created that can be injected into a human body and interact with the brain to form a computer-brain interface. Already we have implants that can give hearing to the deaf and sight to the blind. We are at the stage with Nanotechnology and genetics where we can say the cure for cancer is at hand. We are also about to find cures for may other prior non-curable diseases and genetic disorders.

The implementation of the technology is my goal, too, It is the main point of "My Earthbound Space Station" and my scifi novel, "Alien reports" ot tp advance the latest technologies to date that can combat pollution and global warming. Since it seems you have the same goal, why not continue your efforts and when you find something that can help, give it to the world. I have an extensive reading file for science, including Nanotechnology. My principle interest is in Physics but many advances are being made in computer technology and medicine. Take your pick and see where things are going. BTW, NASA Science is one of my reading files.

As far as my research of the past 3 days, low frequency 30 to 300 hertz communication systems with submarines has been much deactivated, and is currently not the primary way of communicating with submarines.

What the replacement is is not fully known to me, but I would like to believe there is a very good one considering the threat of nuclear armed submarines wandering around out of contact.

In my original post in indicated a past trace of information that would imply that there had been an advance that relegated low frequency communication methods to secondary status.

The implication, is that laser and or maser devices have been created that will carry information with great durablity into earthwater, obviating the need for earth resonate low frequency earth cavatation radio frequency communcation devices.

This also would imply that my concept of photonic phased becons similar to FM radio with laser encoding on photons, was not out of the question.

The "Money" or evidence may well be found in current communication systems for the most dangerous of submarines.

Of course I could be wrong and they may well be traveling around looking for the best time to surface and get a message over the Motorola, or the Harris, but I hope they are able to keep in touch without coming up.

Maybe they are traveling now in predicable paths on the ocean floor where the cables are laid to point transmit.

That would seem consistent with the stupidity we are used to.

I remember when guys were putting GPS in their airplanes, but weren't supposed to use it, as if it was cheating.

It would be cheating to use a compass for Columbus by the same logic.

Anyway.

In my original post I said I had a vision, I felt that you could put an image on a photon, and that I had been arguing about it for years. I also said that the only trace of evidence of my theories as useful was some bit of news that the submarines were being communicated with via laser tech devices.

Diminuation of the Low Freq Com System would imply there was a replacement system, and that is the best I can give right now.

I thank you very much for your interest and thoughts and hope you will continue to argue with me on this subject of encoding photons with images and transmitting and receiving them on long distances or through dense materials.

This might be a bit off topic as far as I understand the concept since a bit of of the political is mentioned. RSD

Okay, but I'm not quite sure from your post how (or why) you are relating ELF submarine communications to the original purpose of this thread, namely impressing a holographic image upon a photon.

Insofar as ELF submarine communications is concerned, electromagnetic waves in the ELF frequency range can travel through the oceans and reach submarines anywhere. Building a ELF transmitter is a formidable challenge, as they have to work at incredibly long wavelengths: The US Navy's system (called Seafarer) operated at 76 Hz, the Soviet/Russian system (called ZEVS) at 82 hertz. The latter corresponds to a wavelength of 3658.5 km. That is more than a quarter of the Earth's diameter. Obviously, the usual half-wavelength dipole antenna cannot be constructed, as it would span the width of a large country.

Instead, one has to find an area with very low ground conductivity (a requirement opposite to usual radio transmitter sites) and bury two huge electrodes in the ground at different sites and feed lines (wires on poles) to them from a station in the middle. Although other separations are possible, 60 km is the distance used by the ZEVS transmitter located near Murmansk. As the ground conductivity is poor, the current between the electrodes will penetrate deep into the Earth, essentially using a large part of the globe as antenna. The antenna is very inefficient. To drive it, a dedicated power plant seems to be required, although the power emitted as radiation is only a few watts. Its transmission can be received virtually anywhere. A station in Antarctica noticed when the Russian Navy put their ZEVS antenna into operation.

Due to the technical difficulty of building an ELF transmitter, only the US and the Russian Navy owned such systems. Until it was dismantled in late September 2004, the American Seafarer system (76 Hz) consisted of two antennas, located at Clam Lake, Wisconsin (since 1977) and at Sawyer Air Force Base near Gwinn, Michigan (since 1980). Before 1977, the Sanguine system was used, placed in the Laurentian Shield in Wisconsin. The Russian antenna (ZEVS, 82 Hz) is installed at the Kola Peninsula near Murmansk. It was noticed in the West in the early 1990s. The British Royal Navy once considered building their own transmitter at Glengarry Forest, Scotland, but the project was cancelled.

ELF Submarine Transmissions (US Navy)

The method employed was a 64-ary Reed-Solomon code, meaning that the alphabet had 64 symbols, each represented by a very long pseudo-random sequence. The entire transmission was then encrypted. The advantages of such a technique are that by correlating multiple transmissions, a message could be completed even with very low signal-to-noise ratios, and because only a very few pseudo-random sequences represented actual message characters, there was a very high probability that if a message was successfully received, it was a valid message (anti-spoofing).

Two facts should be noted: First, the communication link is one-way. No submarine could have its own ELF transmitter on board, due to the sheer size of such a device. Attempts to design a transmitter which can be immersed in the sea or flown on an aircraft were soon abandoned.

Second, on such low frequency, information can be transmitted very slowly, on the order of a few characters per minute (see Shannon's coding theorem). Although the actual codes used are secret (their meaning only - the transmissions can be received all over the world), it is reasonable to assume that no specific orders are given, but rather commands like "come to periscope depth and await orders by satellite radio."

Seafarer's decommissioning implies that other, better systems for submarine communications are now in place and operational. For my part, I've wondered if the USN is modulating power transfer between sections of the US power grid on a predetermined schedule. If so, these signals would easily be detectable by submarines. Friends as far as Finland routinely detect load changes in the US grid, as even the basic US' 60 Hz hum is detectable even from there using only modest ELF gear.

Alternatively, some have suspected that the Alaskan HAARP system is using the ionosphere to generate a signal which then propagates in the Earth-Ionosphere Waveguide. If so, the USN is using one or more of the Schumann resonances occurring at 7.8, 14.3, 20.8, 27.3 and 33.8 Hz for submarine communications.

Of course, other more exotic means may be used to facilitate such communications, though I seriously doubt that laser/maser techniques are used. Laser light simply cannot blanket the globe efficiently, and masers can't be used because microwaves do not penetrate seawater by more than a few meters or, at most, tens of meters. In contrast, ELF radio wavelengths penetrate hundreds to thousands of meters, depending on frequency (the lower the frequency, the deeper the penetration).

Anonymous Hero:

I looked the abstract up as linked myself and found nothing that I could use, or make heads or tails of. Did you find more, or understand more of what you found? I did note the trail went to Harvard edu, and wondered about that.

My referance to the laser phased communication methods was to buttress my theories concerning photonic encoding using holographic technology for hardy signals.

The most difficult and most dangerous machines to communicate with are nuclear weapon carrying nuclear powered submarines.

Discussions indicate that ELF and underwater cables similar to VOR transmission points are the primary communication technologies for Submarines, plus Grid 76 hertz notes to transition bypassing purpose built technologies.

It is disturbing that I know this and have figured it out, since I'm not that well educated, or that smart.

The good thing is that machines to co-opt the communications and turn assets into threats depends on codes.

The one time pad really better be what my country is using for communicating with my nations most deadly weapons systems.

If the laser communications work two way with submarines to a depth of a reliable 40 feet, then they are right strong in the mix.

My fear as far a nuclear weapon armed submarines is that they would ever be out of touch to two way communications with confirmable codes for who was really saying what as far as orders.

The history of the Maritimes and Navies is a great study since it is certain that Captains did what they did with no instant twoway communications.

My other fear is that the submarines are locatable because they travel to cable node transmission points to keep in two way touch, and are then therefore predictable.

In the jungle, if your schedule is predictable, you are food.

Dear Europium,

I have now re-read your post which I have accepted as most likely concerning submarine communication methods. I was wrong to think that the laser enabled wavelength had much utility with submarines, though if it works two way from even 20 meters, that may be better than surfacing.

The reason I brought the laser commnication methods up was that I had a vague notion that lasers were powerful and were required to make holograms, and wanted to make the hologram on the photon somehow.

In part of this difficult discussion, at least for me, since I am married in my mind for some reason approaching pathological denial that somehow somewhere some thinking being figured out how to transmit 3D images on what feels to me like light itself and that to recieve the images we have to make what they made.

Maybe eventually DVDs and DVD players will be passed back and forth between civilizations through worm holes? I read an article in Scientific American awhile back about the possiblity of Worm Hole Wave Encapsulated Space Ships that could possibly achieve the mythic Warp Drive. -At least that is what I recall of the article, as I understood as much as I could without talking with someone that understood it better than I did, which I suspect is highly likely.

Certainly even if I am forced to recognize the facts and some prospect that what I have envisioned is impossible, it has been a joy to read yours and others writings for both their focus on the possiblity, or impossiblity.

I'll be withdrawing a bit to study. As last thoughts I have wondered how it might be possible to marry darkmatter to matter in a cluster of halfphoton half darkmatter so as to maintain more than matter for the equivalent of film as dark and light turned from the negative in trays that makes the photograph.

Phased and sent in a direction, it might not explode aye?

I'll be withdrawing a bit to study. As last thoughts I have wondered how it might be possible to marry darkmatter to matter in a cluster of halfphoton half darkmatter so as to maintain more than matter for the equivalent of film as dark and light turned from the negative in trays that makes the photograph.

Phased and sent in a direction, it might not explode aye?

I fail to see the light and try as I may, I cannot grasp the dark that surrounds me. The wedding of the two is at a loss.

Dear Trans,

The nature and properties of dark matter are thus far a complete mystery. Dark matter is known only through its gravitational interaction with ordinary matter. Nothing else is known about it, much less knowing anything about how to manipulate it. Dark matter is called "dark" because it does not interact with ordinary matter in any way other than by exerting a gravitational pull on it. Dark matter cannot be seen, doesn't clump together the way ordinary matter does to form stars, planets, etc., doesn't interact with energy (such as light, radio waves, etc.) directly, and is known only by way of its gravitational interaction with ordinary matter.

A little bit about Dark Matter: Dark matter was first "discovered" (inferred, actually. No one has ever detected dark matter directly) when astronomers noticed that galaxies behave as if they are far, far more massive than can be accounted for simply from the ordinary matter that seems to be present in them. It is not known that dark matter as such actually exists, but something is there and that something , whatever it is, appears to account for more than 70% of the known mass of the Universe.

It seems that the latest thought on dark matter is that is is subatomic particles. It seems that there is some evidence to this conception of dark matter. Also, the latest is that the shadow(s) of dark matter have been seen.

I had thought of clustering and crawling down of the holograms on the photons and then wondered if the antenna, ought to be two part, one reflective, and one receptive as I was digging the ditch.

Overall the reason for looking for a hologram on a photon was my suspicion that it would be a hardy signal.

I do not fully understand the hydrogen spectra since I am not as well educated as the rest of you appear to be.

Possibly it will be of help if I describe the vision that inspired my concept.

Please forgive me, I am primarily a poet.

What the vision looked like was a better than a football, and better than an eggshape, filled with active trapezoid crystallines that together emitted light. Or in otherwords the perfect oval full of life, or souls.

It was as large as anything gets, and as small as anything gets as I saw it and felt it.

Now I am of the opinion that if you have "visions" you might be crazy, one is all I've had and it has changed my life and is a touchstone in my head, or mind, or whatever you want to call consciousness.

I was influenced by Kenneth Knowlton's book Einstein History and Other Passons to continue to think of this sort of stuff since Mr. Knowlton indicated that Einstein had departed from the scientific method and worked from intuition and feeling that was not substantiated at the time.

Two things came out of my vision.

I had two questions. One was how could be prevent Apocalyptic Riot, and how could we see people from outerspace.

The vision over time as I touched it indicated that a country of airports internationally confederated and under the protection of the UN and International Laws would moderate the conflicts enough to to prevent Apocalyptic Riot, or Nuclear War as I used to think of it.

The other was that to see people from outerspace we would need to capture holograms encoded on photons.

To make a nation I am typically enjoined to start a war with someone. In current times who has Disneyland gone to war with? If the Vatican is part of the UN with such status, and I was in charge of Disneyland, I'd be asking for the same status as the Vatican.

As far as seeing people from outerspace on a 3D TV set, it might be important that we insure our survival where we are long enough to make some better recievers than the ones most common in our living rooms.

To all of you who have written to me and each other on this subject I am extremely grateful for your thoughts. The problems of the proper antenna materials for photon hologram transmission and reception etal are apparently understood by you as a crew.

My Pilot hero James Boy once said, when we were trying to fix a DC 4 enough for a freight flight to Puerto Rico with chickens and groceries, "We Are Not Here To Figure Out How Not To Do It."

Most people heard that as, "We Are Hear to Figure Out How Not To Do It."