Beyond Our Visible Universe

Everyone is the center of their own personal universe.If you die,for all intents and purposes,your universe dies.But everyone else's continues.Mountains do arise,by tectonic plates and volcanic action,but even these forces are a result of nature trying to achieve balance.Tectonic plates move in the direction of least resistance,lava flows in the path of least resistance,as does water.Water gets to the top of the hill by rain,which is water vapor initially,and the vapor is created by unbalanced forces.Your beer is cold because a refrigerant was used to remove the heat from the beer,and expel it elsewhere.The air in the refrigerator has had the heat removed by a refrigerant that is much colder than the air. The heat will dissipate into the cooler surrounding outside air via the condenser coils and fan. Weather is also a result of balancing forces.Hot air rises from the equator (both directions; Hot moving towards cold),Coriolis effect imparts a rotation to the air which create the jet stream and winds.High pressure centers move toward low pressure centers.The low pressure centers are created by water vapor,which is lighter than dry air. Outside of our personal internal universe there is much to be learned,but you must think outside of the constraints of personal experience and try to be objective about a larger whole. It is true that my personal universe would collapse into chaos without my wife,but on this particular topic of interest,my original posting, I am speaking of a larger picture.

I am speaking about a more accurate picture than an incomplete feeling.

Water vapor is water.

Tectonic plates move after resistance has been broken down. When this happens it's called an earthquake.

Lava moves up first to reach the Earth's surface. Once there it may solidify in place and thus not move up or down. It may form a lava tube to move downrange of the volcano. Lava may even erupt up into the air once it reaches the surface. Lava does not always go down.

I certainly know and understand the laws of thermodynamics and entropy. I also understand many of the cosmologic predictions for planets, stars, and the whole universe. After more than 13 billion years of constant, very dynamic activity always happening somewhere since the start of the universe, I think it is pure hubris to think balance to be normal or to even anthropomorphize the universe as wanting to achieve a balance. The change of things appears to be the constant not equilibrium.

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Water vapor is a gaseous form of water, and is lighter than dry air,that's true,just as ice is the solid form.Liquid water does nor flow uphill without an external force,and the force has to be greater than the resistance to the flow. When I spoke of water not running uphill,I was referring to LIQUID WATER,and I thought that most anyone would know my meaning.If I had meant water vapor,or ice,I would have said Water Vapor, Steam or Ice. When a tectonic plate moves,it moves in the easiest direction.When lava flows,it flows in the easiest direction.If the surface above it is weaker than the forces below,it will erupt or flow out of the crust.Lava is constantly circulating in the mantle,similar to wind or tides on the surface,but always the motion is in the direction of least resistance.Heat flows,cold does not flow, it is merely the absence of heat,(molecular motion),however there are some instances on the quantum level that the flow is reversed,but not in the macro world in which we live. As Mark Twain said:"Knowing exactly the right thing to say,I said nothing." So I will stop arguing my point now.

Liquid water most certainly can and does move up without an external force.

That drop comes up out of the pool without any external force.

A rubber ball will also bounce. The surface tension of the water is like a spring and part of the drop springs back from the energy stored in in during the fall. More is the pity that you do not see or understand the forces acting on the water drop.If you don't understand it,you probably never will.

What?

Can you show a video of a drop of water coming up, out of a pool, without a drop, first being dropped into that pool

Or,

Show an action created on it's own, without any type of precursor activity.

Current thinking, AFAIK, is that the universe isn't expanding into anything. Space itself is expanding. The classic example is that it's like spots on a balloon that is being inflated. If you put spots on the balloon and inflate the balloon, the spots become further apart, yet the spots are not moving with respect to the balloon.

If distant galaxies are receding, the frequency of light emitted is shifted to longer wavelengths due to Doppler shift. If space is expanding, the wavelength is lengthened due to the expansion of space during the time since the light was created. It looks a lot the same.

There is a difference between space expanding and distant galaxies just moving away. Distant galaxies could not move away faster than light speed, due to relativity. However, if space itself is expanding, at some distance, the event horizon, light emitted could never reach us because space is expanding faster than light.

My point exactly: current thinking is the problem I see. If natural laws apply universally, then the universe is seeking equilibrium; with what, I do not know.

God.

Seems interesting to compare the Universal event horizon to the event horizon of a black hole.

Today my visible portion of the universe consists of looking down while mowing the front and back yards.

I won't have time to look into the heavens and contemplate what's beyond that.

Please let me know if any revelations become apparent. I don't want to miss any of the good stuff!

The comments recall the words of Leonard Cohen - "We are so small between the stars, so large against the sky..." (From "Stories of the Street")

There was no question here. What is it that you want is to take away from this preaching? That the universe is unbalanced? Some people who post here are, and you may not be exempted from that list.

Is there an end to the universe? Can "nothing" be defined? Is it worth the thought?

Yes. It can be defined as the point where everything in the universe has decayed into low-grade hear and it is all at the same temperature.

hear heat

Empirically speaking, the first iteration of your comment might have more backing than the correction you provided.

In my lifetime, I haven't perceived the quality of the heat degrading appreciably. On the other hand, the quality of what I hear has definitely degraded significantly.

"Our knowledge of the universe is limited to the visible portion aided by most sophisticated receivers at all frequencies." The ultimate limit to our knowledge of the universe is about 50 billion light-years; beyond that the known universe is expanding FTL and we won't be able to see further until someone invents the warp drive. "Baryonic matter is only around 5% of our known universe." That notion is based on the theories of dark matter and dark energy, both just SWAGs invoked to explain the otherwise inexplicable. We might find that gravity isn't quite as described by Newton and Einstein. And we might find proof of the multiverse. I for one doubt our species will survive long enough to know all the answers. But it sure is fun to try.

The concept of infinity has always been intriguing.

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