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Vacuum and Dry Air Used for Removing Moisture Content in Transformer

09/08/2019 1:59 AM

The transformers I had seen earlier used to come Nitrogen filled from the manufacturer and used to be oil filled at site. However, the transformer supplied to one of our project came oil filled up to the core level and the balance space was to be filled up with oil at site. There was a delay of about 5 years in commissioning the transformers. The pre-commissioning checks and testing are in progress. The Commissioning Engineer stated that the water content is higher than the permissible level and hence air drying and vacuum drying has to be carried out. The transformer oil has been drained out completely into another tank. The first cycle of dry air filling (24 hours) and vacuum drying (48 hours) has been completed and the second cycle is in progress. However, there is no appreciable reduction in the moisture content. The Commissioning Engineer stated that we may have to do 3 or4 cycles to reduce the moisture content.

What are the standard values of the dew point and RH value for a healthy transformer. Can we predict how many cycles are required to dry out the moisture content in the transformer. The transformer has to be urgently commissioned to start the other activities.

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Re: Vacuum and dry air used for removing moisure content in transformer

09/08/2019 5:52 AM

As far as I know,there is no accurate method to predict the eventual drying of the transformer.

There are many variables,such as insulation type,thickness,temperature,etc.

Here is a link that will explain it further.

Do not rush this process because of deadlines.

It must be done right.

Failure to do so could result in catastrophic failure in the future,and forensic investigators are VERY good at determining the root cause of a failure.

Follow the guidance of your engineer in these matters,not the time budget.

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09/08/2019 7:44 AM

Thank you very much for your reply. The problem is, the 220 kV switchyard, breaker, relay, SCADA, HT and LT panels, SFC, motor and pump Commissioning Engineers are at site and we are not able to proceed further because the transformers have not been charged. The client is also pressurising us to start the pumps without further delay. We have to take a call on this. When will the transformers be ready for charging? Should we send all the Commissioning Engineers back. When should they return back to site. This is the first time I've seen the drying out process for transformers being carried out in this fashion.

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09/08/2019 6:23 PM

If you do not allow the engineers to complete the job,your company will be responsible for any catastrophic failures that occur in the near future.
If you cannot afford to lose,you should not gamble.

It takes a long time to remove moisture from the insulation.

Water can actually freeze at ambient temperature under high vacuum,so it must be done slowly to prevent this.

Here is a link addressing your concerns and some alternate methods of drying.

https://electrical-engineering-portal.com/what-to-do-if-transformer-has-an-excessive-moisture-content

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09/08/2019 10:56 PM

It may be the method the factory uses in case of contamination, but it seems unsuitable for paper insulation. However, in typical field situations, it is not feasible or practical to remove the oil from the transformer, or maybe just not necessary.

Normally the windings are heated, and the oil is circulated through the transformer. The moisture is removed from the oil. This process does take some time, but in removing moisture from paper, higher temperatures will reduce the time significantly. The acceptable values for moisture in oil are well understood and have significant actual test values from field work that provide a good target for energization.

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Re: Vacuum and Dry Air Used for Removing Moisture Content in Transformer

09/09/2019 3:06 AM

As <...The Commissioning Engineer stated that the water content is higher than the permissible level ...>, this individual would be the best person to ask.

As <...The Commissioning Engineer stated that we may have to do 3 or4 cycles to reduce the moisture content...> it would appear that the answer to the second question is already to hand.

Remember that everything happens "as soon as possible".

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09/09/2019 3:25 AM

I recall from very long ago that we had traction transformers (6-phase secondary windings), ±60yrs old, with excessive moisture levels. We dried the oil by circulating it through a specifically designed vacuum system, but most of the moisture remained in the paper insulation of the core, so the benefits were short-lived. We tried heating the oil slightly, but the best results were obtained by shorting out the secondary windings and applying 400V 3-phase to the primary (we did the calculations beforehand to ensure we stay within limits!) whilst circulating the oil with a pump to ensure that no local hotspots develop. This caused the core to heat up quickly and shed moisture to the warmer oil, as warmer oil has a massively higher potential to absorb moisture than cold oil. The moisture was then removed by circulating this warmer oil through the normal vacuum oil drying process. As it was winter we covered the cooling fins with tarpaulins, and kept an eye on the winding and oil temperature gauges. Took a day or two to complete per transformer. Not sure if they still do it this way....

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09/09/2019 4:41 AM

I am surprised that the drying is done by air and vacuum to remove moisture.

Any transformers I have worked on in need of drying after a rebuild where moisture from the atmosphere contaminated the coils was done either by heating the windings in the oilless tank to around 70 deg C under a vacuum near the maximum rated vacuum for the tank. The windings were heated by applying current via the HT and shorting the LT much like a copper loss test and thermocouples were placed into the HT/LT coil space and brought out to a thermocouple meter to monitor hot spot creation.

Don't rush the drying as from experience a 60MVA transformer can take a week or more to be thoroughly dry. When the heat and vacuum are first applied the megger reading will rise so don't be fooled into thinking the moisture has gone for it will drop as the moisture disperses and then rise as the drying has effect. Drop the vacuum before meggering by passing the air going to the tank through a large dessicant drier.

While you have the oil out run the oil through a heated vacuum oil filter for there is no use putting wet oil back into a dry transformer and test it for moisture and acidity for the presence of moisture may have reacted with the tank, laminations, insulation and copper or aluminium if that is what the winding are made.

As said you can't rush the drying else you will have a good project for a scrap metal merchant.

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09/09/2019 7:47 AM

The reduced voltage,shorted secondary heated winding method is one of the methods described in the link above.

It appears to be the most time-efficient method.

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09/09/2019 7:09 AM

<...The transformer has to be urgently commissioned to start the other activities...>

Be ready to reschedule them, then. A time plan is only a guess, after all. If the guess doesn't agree with experiment, then it's wrong: it's as simple as that.

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09/09/2019 7:59 AM

If ever a project is suspended, the suppliers should be asked for recommendations for long term storage, consequence of not following procedure & their advice followed - it costs but your experience shows it is worthwhile.

Ask the transfo manufacturer what his storage advice & cost estimate for it would have been & recommendations for restoration. Keep a record of all the delays and lay-offs & cost to compare with that. Make sure purchase/project managers get this in writing as a lesson.

Heating the windings electrically will speed removal of moisture from insulation.

All the oil must also be tested & dried or replaced - best to get on with that in parallel or more delay.....

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