Previous in Forum: Duct CFMs for home A/C   Next in Forum: torque values
Close
Close
Close
3 comments
Rate Comments: Nested
Anonymous Poster

Select -strainers Vrs. Cone trainers

10/24/2007 10:23 AM

Cone strainers (Witch's Hat) as Y-Strainers can be used in.line for Pumps and Compressors start-up Strainers . In may experience, normally, Y-strainers are selected for this service where small amount of solids are expected and where clean-out will be infrequent. In other cases, cone strainers are recommended. Now the question is if there is other parameter to take in accoount to selecte one of them . Right now i have a client asking to use cone strainers in a clean service (Light naphtha) while it looks ok to use Y-strainer.

Reply
Interested in this topic? By joining CR4 you can "subscribe" to
this discussion and receive notification when new comments are added.
Guru
Engineering Fields - Piping Design Engineering - Retired Piper

Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Bayonet Point, Florida
Posts: 635
Good Answers: 61
#1

Re: Select Y-Strainers Vrs. Cone Strainers

10/24/2007 2:15 PM

There are a number of issues to consider when thinking about strainers in the suction line to a pump or a compressor.

These issues would include, but not be limited to the following:
- Size

- Purpose or Function

- Operational considerations

- Ease of maintenance

- Cost

- Client prefference

So, let's take a look at some thoughts on each of these items.

- Size - There is a point on the pipe size scale where there will be a natural break between strainer types. Any suction line that is 2" NPS or smaller I would only select the Y-strainer. For 3" NPS and larger I would consider all other issues before deciding on a type.

- Purpose or Function - What is the purpose and function of the intended strainer? Is it because of concern for the pump (or compressor) during start-up in that there might be residual construction related material that was left in the line that would damage the equipment? Or is it being considered because the normal process is expected to contain or develop "lumps" that could damage the equipment? If it is for start-up you should lean towards the cone-strainer.

- Operational considerations - Depending on the function then which type will give me the most reliable and the most sustained operation. Shut-downs cost money and reduce profits due to loss in production.

- Ease of maintenance - All strainers will get plugged over time. The temporary (start-up) strainer is intended to be removed after some period of time. This might be anything from hours to days, to weeks or longer. This is a planned shut-down. The cone strainer requires far more time and effort to remove, clean and reinstall than the Y-Strainer.

- Cost - The cone strainer is normally a simple cone with holes, fitting inside the suction pipe. The Y-strainer includes the strainer basket and the full body that is the same material as the pipe and capable of the same pressure and temperature conditions as the pipe system. The cone strainer therefore is a far cheaper option than the Y-strainer of the same size.

- Client prefferance - This will normally be the issue that overrides all the other issues. If the Client says they do not want cone strainers then you could try to save them from themselves by showing them the cost difference and then if they still insist on Y-strainers then put in Y-strainers.

__________________
Do it once and do it right
Reply
Guru
Engineering Fields - Piping Design Engineering - New Member Egypt - Member - Member since 02/18/2007

Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Cairo, Egypt
Posts: 1733
Good Answers: 248
#2

Re: Select -strainers Vrs. Cone trainers

10/25/2007 5:35 AM

Using a Y-strainer is easier, which allows easy draining of impurities through the drain located at bottom of strainer, without need to shutdown the system. Also a disadvantage of using the cone strainer is the accumulating of impurities which eliminates the cross-sectional area of pipe and increases the pressure drop through the system, until dismantling and cleaning the strainer.

Note. Take care while assembling the strainer to be at the exact direction. A lot of people install it at the wrong direction.

__________________
It is better to be defeated on principles, than to win on lies!
Reply
Guru

Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Hop around Toronto, New York & Karachi
Posts: 1876
Good Answers: 19
#3

Re: Select -strainers Vrs. Cone trainers

10/25/2007 6:06 AM

The Client is the Boss and he is right. Quote him what he wants and as an alternate quote him Y-Strainer. You can do better - fit a 1/4" or 1/2" Ball Valve on the Y-Strainer-Screen Check nut and tell him he can clean the Y-Strainer on-line without shutdown & opening screens.Tell him this on-line cleaning option you will give on no-charge.

__________________
I not only use all the brains that I have, but all that I can borrow. Woodrow Wilson
Reply
Reply to Forum Thread 3 comments
Copy to Clipboard

Users who posted comments:

Abdel Halim Galala (1); ducon (1); PennPiper (1)

Previous in Forum: Duct CFMs for home A/C   Next in Forum: torque values

Advertisement