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10/31/2007 2:29 AM

Does carbon content in Steel accounts for magnetization, if not then what?

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10/31/2007 11:31 AM

No, it is the Iron content.

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10/31/2007 11:06 PM

It depends on the crystal structure of the material- that is related to the alloy contents and heat treatments. Iron & steel usually exists as a body-centred cubic structure (BCC). The body-centred atom is free to move off centre and can create a dipole where one part of the lattice is slightly more positive and the other side is slightly more negative. Carbon can help create the dipole by straining the lattice (if my memory is correct). The creation of dipoles allows a material to stick to a magnet. These dipoles can also become aligned to create a magnet (induced magnetism). Some stainless steels are austenitic and the associated face-centred cubic structure (FCC) doesn't allow a dipole to form. These metals contain iron and some carbon (low) but are non-magnetic.

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11/01/2007 12:25 AM

This may help:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coercivity

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11/01/2007 10:36 AM

As said before, is the cristal structure which defines the magnetization behaviour.

Iron and steels are easily magnetized in all room temperature stable or metastable structures but FCC one (austenitic). But not all austenitic steels are in the "stainless family". There are some other cases (12% Mn steels, are austenitic but not stainless) and are not ferromagnetic.

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11/01/2007 9:03 PM

To begin with, you had better sit down for this. All elements on the periodic table are magnetic in one of 5 different ways and some require insane coercive fields for the effects to show up, but still, all things are magnetic. These 5 types of magnetism are ferromagnetism, ferrimagnetism, antiferromagnetism, paramagnetism, and diamagnetism with Ferromagnetism being by far the most common one referred to when 'magnetism' is used in a general nature.

For a quick refresher on magnetism you can go here:

http://bms.westport.k12.ct.us/lmc/mag.htm

Now, the carbon in steel does affect the lattice or crystaline nature as some have called it, so yes it will affect its behavior, but IT in and of itself is not what accounts for the magnetization. The balance, velocity, and direction of moving charges is what actually accounts for the overall magnetic effect.

Iron (Fe) being FerroMagnetic has probably the strongest overall effect, but like your momma's cookies, every recipe is a little different and thus reacts as a whole in its own way. A little more or less carbon will affect the mix, but only marginally since it is swamped by the ferromagnetic effect of the iron.

Material science in the fields of magnetics is a very complex one (above my head anyway) but once you understand the basics of the 5 types of magnetism and how their structure in the lattice plays a part in that, you will have a pretty good place to launch into a million new questions.

We need more materials scientists in magnetics, but it is a niche' field to say the least. It's a good question and I hope my answer is somewhat profitable.

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11/05/2007 1:32 PM

Good Answer!

Sorry ....did I over simplify again?

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