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Phalanx System and Others

09/26/2020 3:44 AM

"Here's an FAQ and videos with details about how these things work.

-5:01-6:12 the boat is estimated to be about 2 miles / 3300 meters -6:15 a base is attacked and multiple C-RAMs engage, as they detect incoming fire they can also pinpoint the general location of the enemy fire. As the video continues, the C-RAMs begin to get overwhelmed by the incoming fire and we can see the shots spraying wildly trying to get as many incoming shots as they can. As the C-RAMs generate data on the incoming fire and pinpoint locations of the enemy, a fire mission is called in response to the enemy. The camera men are most likely one of the people that are given the fire mission to take out the enemy, the cameraman can be heard yelling "Get some H.E. (High. Explosive. rounds) now!" - These are used to shoot incoming mortars/rockets and stuff - Russia has a system similar called the kashtan, inspired by the US system. - These turrets are a last resort, there are many other defenses to shoot stuff down -The big red line you see are 20mm self destructing tracer bullets, the iraqis actually thought this and the AC130 were shooting lasers when they first saw them in action. -The C-RAM ammunition self destructs on impact or after its traveled a certain distance (you can see the red line turn to white circles before dissappearing, thats the self destruct). The self destruction basicly turns the round into very tiny debris and is pretty much carried away by the wind. -The CIWS (the one on the ship) shoots 20mm tungsten armor penetrating bullets with NO self destruct, they will fall down back to earth. (RIP fish)"

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09/26/2020 8:45 AM

Yes but one should realize that any current military publication is propaganda, rife with disinformation. The Maginot Line was going to keep France safe from German invasion.

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09/26/2020 1:25 PM

I would much rather be standing on the driver side of this, than the receiving end, just the same...It'll shoot your eye out from 2 miles away...

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09/27/2020 11:02 AM

The problem, is separation propaganda and disinformation from fact... chose wisely.

most won’t want to take that chance.

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09/27/2020 9:13 PM

It's a problem for whom? Aye there's the rub.

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09/27/2020 1:00 AM

Simulation...

Reality...

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09/28/2020 9:56 AM

It is an incredible privilege to live in a country where this is not normal.

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09/28/2020 2:19 PM

Just wait,... the norms are fast changing....

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09/28/2020 3:20 PM

That sounds like you want militias, vigilantes and every sort of angry person to resort to violence instead of just loud protest.

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09/28/2020 3:35 PM

Because they foolishly believe they will be top dog in that situation.

Given we spend more on weapons than the next three countries combined I find it hilarious that our own toothless wonders are unaware of the awesome power the US military wields.

Believe you are badder than the US military at your own risk,

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09/28/2020 5:16 PM

France spent a lot of money making the Maginot line. I hope we are never tested like they were.

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09/28/2020 5:44 PM

A strong military should only be looked on as only part of a tool of many tools for deterrence, and should always be look upon as that. other tools is a strong leadership.

A strong leadership and a strong military needs to have a balanced approach. One does not want to use the military loosely, nor does one want to use a Neville Chamberlain form of diplomacy of appeasement.

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09/28/2020 5:26 PM

Keep in mind, the US military budget also protects, a lot of the Scandinavian countries as well as several other countries.

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09/28/2020 6:08 PM

Us military budget protects US interests all around the world. no cherry picking allowed.

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09/28/2020 6:24 PM

Not cherry picking since I mentioned many country’s, I used Scandinavia as an example.

The point I’m making,... a country that could afford its own military,... isn’t,... or more descriptive,... doesn’t have to, because the U.S. military is doing it.

and that’s changing,... take the Nordic Defense Force as the example I made. Where they are picking up more of their share for their own defense. And more so now because of heavily weighted and strong diplomacy, then when the article was written.

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09/29/2020 9:51 AM

That's an interesting way to phrase abject abandonment of our allies.

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09/29/2020 10:10 AM

That’s because you’re looking at it when a predetermined mind, you need to be more objective.

They aren’t being abandon. If you actually would invest some time and look into it, you’d see they are being brought into NATO.

And these allies will have to reprogram their budget and put more into their own defense.

It may be difficult, but there comes a time when they have to be weaned off from suckling off their parents teats.

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09/29/2020 10:27 AM

I can understand if we were hurting, but we are not. Once we get the criminals out of the government maybe we can do something other than give rich people more money.

If our obligation as a world leader is not profitable enough for greedy billionaires, tough shit. Go to Russia!

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09/29/2020 11:27 AM

I have no idea what you mean we are not hurting, but it might be the difference between you and I. With myself being proactive and you being reactive. You just having realized the trend.

Also if you mean criminals in government are the career politicians, they are the ones making the money off of the military complex cash flow.

you need to remember the first obligation is to ourselves first and foremost. If we can’t sustain ourselves first, which with what is going on right now, we wont be able address or assist others.

as far as your last sentence, that’s just emotion and I’ll leave it as that.

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09/29/2020 12:59 PM

ROFLMAO!

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09/28/2020 5:24 PM

I don’t know who you construed my post that I want militias. I just observed, just by the rioted, I do t know what your calling that loud protests.

In my observation those aren’t loud protests, those are rioting... and here is one difference.

and people that refer to them as peaceful protests, or even as you call them loud protest is in my opinion, is foolish. You can take it as you may.

Calling it anything else other than a riot, is desensitizing the norms and is making it an acceptable behavior.

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09/28/2020 5:29 PM

Good. I was actually hoping I was jumping to a wrong conclusion from your comment.

The times have been changing in many ways and for a long time. Can we agree that hopefully they will be for the better.

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09/28/2020 5:46 PM

Diffidently, I do feel it will get worse before it trends better.

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09/27/2020 6:08 AM

Anyone who has been dove or waterfowl hunting knows how hard it is to hit a moving target.Doves fly at about 30 mph,ducks at about 60mph.And a duck is the master of vertical take off,going from zero to 60 mph in a millisecond (or so it seems).

These jets are flying at hundreds of mph,and it is a challenge even for radar guided guns,especially if the target is rapidly changing direction.It is amazing that they hit anything,however I did see a lag in initial target lead response,probably because of the velocity of the rounds vs target.

The rounds self destruct into paper-like debris if they don't hit the target,so no concern about downrange impacts.

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09/27/2020 2:12 PM

If there are enough of these shooting at you, sooner or later you zig when you should have zagged, and you're spaghettiooohs...

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09/27/2020 2:46 PM

Jet fighter pilots have to be careful when firing their guns to keep from being hit by their own bullets.Incredibly fast!

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09/27/2020 3:23 PM

Well the bullets slow down, the jet doesn't usually....but rockets on the other hand...not so much.....So bullets coming at you at mach 2 and you flying at the bullets at mach 2 = mach 4 approach speed...Not so easy to dodge..

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09/27/2020 8:50 PM

Still,it seems weird that you can fire forward,and get hit in the back by the bullets you just fired.

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09/27/2020 9:12 PM

From what I heard, when accidentally shooting yourself out of the air the bullets rarely hit you from behind. You overtake them in one vector or another.

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09/27/2020 2:48 PM

I have been watching these on the net,and it looks like eventually they would run out of trained pilots and planes and drones.

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