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Distilling Vegetable Oil for Energy

11/09/2007 2:56 PM

I suppose this shows how stupid I am. Now vegetable oil has hydrogen and is flammable. Why can't you distill vegable oil to put in someones car. I know stupid idea. I was thinking since it's not gasoline itself that burns but the vapor itself. Why not take a page from coke syrup take gasoline mix under high pressure to obtain a gasoline fizz. Pardon my limited knowledge. you already have fuel injection. Distill vegeable oil mix with gasoline and tonic water and make a tonic vegable gas fizz.

I describe an idea for a power plant somewhere else. I need some money so if you got some I could use a research grant I was thinking of mating a magnifying lens with a combination vacuum tube and electron tube. combine both the sun and eletrical enegy from a wind turbine. The sun tube would heat up an Iodine heat chamber.

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11/09/2007 3:06 PM

Vegetable oil is being used as a fuel now. It works OK, but I put on another pound everytime the bus passes me.

As for your research grant request, I might be able to help. Send me, prepaid, a Volvo pickup truck, any good bird dogs, and all your expired Scotch (the stuff goes bad after 25 years - trust me), and I'll evaluate the idea

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Re: Distilling Vegetable Oil for Energy

11/09/2007 3:26 PM

I smell French Fries, or wait.....thats just another beater running on biofuel......

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11/09/2007 4:01 PM

At the present as i understand it vegetable oil which is mainly rapeseed oil(Canola).It is more costly to produce than diesel fuel which it can be substitute for after the engine is warm. In parts of the world it is already being blended in with diesel fuel. It is a by product of processing the seed for livestock feed.

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Re: Distilling Vegetable Oil for Energy

11/09/2007 4:48 PM

Is this what you mean?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biodiesel

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Re: Distilling Vegetable Oil for Energy

11/10/2007 3:39 PM

Its already done we call it biofuels and see them as one of potential energy source of the future.........as for your idea..... go on ......

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Re: Distilling Vegetable Oil for Energy

11/12/2007 4:45 AM

Seen in the pretty Suffolk town of Southwold several years ago: a Range Rover with the inscription on the side, "This car is a vegetarian".

When the compression-ignition engine was invented the fuel originally intended for it was oils from food waste. Then someone invented a substitute fuel based upon a petroleum derivative and the food waste didn't get a look-in.

CR4 has been here before. Look up Jeremy Clarkson's Volvo 340 that ran on a mixture of 95% filtered used frying oil and 5% white spirit. Just make sure that the elastomeric components in the vehicle are suitable for contact with this fuel, pay the Excise Duty to HM Revenue and Customs, and from there it's both street-suitable and street-legal.

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11/12/2007 1:27 PM

Fascinating information, but my thinking was with the price of oil there are a lot of things that are now feasible economically. I was thinking of setting of some kind of mixing device. Just as you have with coke syrup premixing to give you a fizzing coke. So you would premix it with a very explosive solution allowing the car to operate.

Do you of any tables that would show the explosivenes of different liguids

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11/12/2007 1:30 PM

will if there is a catylizing process envolved, just the container to hold this 'mix' can be if not expensive but inefficient

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12/04/2007 10:41 PM

by all means try it. but first do it small scale in a mini distiller that you can design yourself. So basically you are saying that if crude dyno oil can be distilled to make gas and diesel, why not crude veggie oil?

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