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Is the Universe a Brain?

02/08/2021 5:00 AM

Is the universe a giant brain?In this link the similarities are discussed.We live in a fractal universe,so why not?

https://www.scienceandnonduality.com/article/human-brain-and-universeticle/human-brain

Does the human brain resemble the Universe?

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02/08/2021 8:49 AM

Is the universe a brain? I'm not an expert, but it would seem to me that you first must define what a "brain" is. Is it intelligent or simply a reaction? For instance an hourglass full of sand my be thought of as thinking as it controls the rate the sand falls but it is simply reacting to gravity and friction. It's thinking is very limited. Chemicals react too, depending on what they are and their environment. Is that thinking or reacting? The article says that dark energy is connecting everything, but even if it is, is it thinking or a reaction? I prefer to think of a brain as intelligent and able to have some kind of feedback that is not simply reactive.

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02/08/2021 8:50 AM

Sorry but your link doesn't work: Error 404 - Page Not Found. However I found a working one: https://phys.org/news/2020-11-human-brain-resemble-universe.html?utm_source=nwletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=weekly-nwletter

I think it's just a coincidence. OK, you have a similar structure but where is the similar functionality? Where are the electric impulses (or the equivalent of them)? And what can propagate through the cosmic structure as the electric impulses propagate through a brain?

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02/08/2021 9:31 AM

"Spooky action at a distance" may be the way parts of the universe interact with all of it's parts.We are limited by C,but I do not presume this is the only way,and I do not accept man's definition of intelligence,based on things around us of the same scale.

To truly open your mind,you must remove ego from the thought process.

We do not even know what +90% of the universe is made of.

The parts can never exceed the whole.

How do we know what "thinking" on that level consists of?

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02/08/2021 9:46 AM

If one considers the possibilities as infinite, and that the number of parallel universes may also be infinite, there is the possibility that the universes are connected and possibly may be thinking. Perhaps God is everything?

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02/08/2021 10:38 AM

Consider the fact that all stars oscillate at different frequencies.Younger and smaller ones at a higher frequency than older larger ones.

Perhaps galaxies also oscillate.

With that thought in mind,perhaps the universe is a large orchestra,and what we observe from our point of view cannot grasp the entirely of it all.

There is much beyond our visible horizon.

The current theory that the universe consists of vibrating strings on the smallest scale hints at this idea.

The merging of galaxies,black holes,are part of a grand composition,all the way down to the vibrating strings.

Now insofar as the composer and maestro you decide for yourself.

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02/08/2021 8:59 AM

Wow! I'm having a severe case of De Ja Vu right now! Cool.

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02/08/2021 1:36 PM

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Re: Is the Universe a Brain? Yes, and quit peeking.

02/09/2021 7:04 AM

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Gazing into this hyperdimensional mirror, Benoit, "No matter how deep I go, there î(and j, and κ,...) am." All of my multifold symmetries perceived by my apophenia and pareidolia are "truly imaginary", and quaternion and octonian,... and We[Divine] said, "It is good." Obviously, there is profound beauty in simulating cache misses and great awe in introspection. I think, therefore I am... at one with the universe[We are unique by definition, you sophomoric "scientists"]. At one time I believed that I had one flaw, I used to have the misconception that I had a superiority complex. That single error has now been corrected. -- Deep Thought

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02/08/2021 7:21 PM

Yes, and it's been plotting against me...

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02/12/2021 8:39 AM

After a multitude of misfortunes,a man cried out:"Why me!?Why me!?"

And a booming voice replied: "I don't know...there is just something about you that chaps my cheeks".

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02/09/2021 6:35 AM

Yes and it was the one collected by Marty Feldman in the young Fran N Stein movie coming from AB NORMAL.

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02/10/2021 8:37 AM

Much of the current scientific thought about the universe would seem to imply the universe is simply a reaction to a first cause, whereas the brain as currently understood, seems to have the ability to act independently.

If the universe had the ability to act independently science, as currently understood, should be impossible as we would not have the constants we depend on to study the activities of the universe.

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02/10/2021 1:02 PM

Humans, as all of the species that we know, have not been around long enough to make a judgement of the universe as a whole.Since the dinosaurs,the galaxy has barely made one evolution.We are not even a blink of an eye in the long list of events that have occurred since the "Big Bang"(if that is really how it started).

At best,we (mankind) can only take a snap shot of what is going on at this particular instant in the chain of events of the universe.

And if the universe began with a single event,then all other events are simply reactions,not independent actions.

Even our very thoughts are a result of reactions.

That is tough to swallow,unless we abandon our ego, to think that everything is in fact a reaction,but it puts things in perspective.

The universe may be reacting,or thinking, in ways we cannot even conceive, as our definition of thinking is limited by our fleeting existence.

There are magnetic portals,or magnetic ropes that connect the Earth with the sun,and they occur about every 8 minutes.

Is this a communication on a different scale than we can imagine,part of a thought process?

Who knows,but there are more mysteries than we can imagine in this universe.

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02/10/2021 1:47 PM

"Humans, as all of the species that we know, have not been around long enough to make a judgement of the universe as a whole."

Yet here are my judgements?

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02/10/2021 4:37 PM

I guess I should have said: "correct assessment".

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02/10/2021 4:48 PM

Actually, I should have said....

"Even our very thoughts are a result of reactions."

Is this thought only the result of reaction?

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02/12/2021 8:33 AM

ANY action is the result of an equal and opposite prior action.

The path back to the original action has countless forks in the road that make it very difficult to follow after so many twists and turns.

Scientist have therefor decided to condense all actions into a "Big Bang".

A cloud is a colloidal mix of water droplets and air,etc.(At least on Earth,that is).

It is fairly easy to predict where a certain cloud will move in a very short interval,but the movements of individual molecules within that cloud are beyond our ability to predict.

This is called random movement,but if one could trace an individual atom,electron,neutrons. strings,etc,back to it's source,there would be a previous action.

We cannot know,and probably never will know what is plucking the strings.

So in one sense,even our thoughts are predicated on the beginning note of the universe.

What came before the Big Bang?

Silence I say.

Absolute silence.

No space,no time,no energy.

A complete and total void which needed no space to exist.

When space exploded,it made possible everything else,which cannot exist without space.

Sure,this is trekking down the path of philosophy,but science and philosophy are constantly following a winding road toward the truth, and sometimes their paths cross,which is very disturbing to both parties.

I try not to confine my thoughts to either path,and this is as it should be;after all,my thoughts themselves are a reaction.

I am a wayward ant,that does not always follow the chemical trail laid down by others but the beaten path certainly sometimes has it's appeal.

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02/12/2021 9:53 AM

"ANY action is the result of an equal and opposite prior action."

This statement is only true based on our current understandings.

What if it's not true?

It's relatively easy to convert matter into energy, but extremely difficult to change energy into matter.

Can entropy be stopped?

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02/10/2021 11:16 AM

If it is, it may have eyes so that it can observe itself. Maybe the expansion is caused by the universe imagining other stars and planets that are then observed in its imagination. It may be saying thinking, "I think, therefore I am."

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02/10/2021 1:10 PM

If the universe is a brain, what was it before the big bang?

Was the big bang a migraine?

Are we part of the universe brain?

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02/12/2021 12:09 AM

Hard to comment.
No-one has seen the universe and no-one really FULLY knows what the brains overall function/power is

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02/12/2021 10:23 AM

I can see some similarities to a brain, but I would say the universe is probably more of a heart in so far the universe itself was created out of love.

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