Pre-Fabricated Metal Buildings

That would be fine, and had thought of a system many years ago to do what you suggest.

Unfortunately if there was ever wind, or any likelihood of wind at the construction site, or a worker left early, without properly anchoring the siding, there was risk of an accident, so I did not proceed with the idea.

We once lost an entire sheet metal roof, some 300 feet x 60 feet in area, because the roofing contractor had tried a "short cut" to save time, without my knowledge, and that evening, a sudden and unexpected gale arrived, which took the lot far downwind.

The dangers of loose sheets of siding materials, becoming loose in a galeare well known.....

Are you serious?

I suppose you just walk away from your running table saw and leave the Porshe running and in gear, while you go grocery shopping, too??

Maybe your mind will blow away and you had better screw your propeller hat on to your head, a bit tighter.

We had no troubles removing erasers from pencils, so you draftsmen can't accidentally hurt yourself with the sharp end when repairing a mistake, did we?

You sound like a feller who has never had his body blown off a staging when he was understaffed, trying to slam a slab of steel on a windy day, ALONE at managements request;... strike that,... insistence!

This response blog, in my humble opinion, is the lamest excuse for keeping things dangerous I have ever heard.

Why not be honest, it would COST MORE and the pre-engineering would have to be more accurate. Nothing like charging a premium for precision engineering, only to be responsible for the sub-contractor's safety or ease of installation, right?

I call this de-engineering. It's what we teach soft buts who don't want to work outdoors every day and actually risk their lives installing at extraordinary heights and adverse conditions.

You don't think anyone else might be served with such advancements, though, right?

Glad to know your willing to help the poor slog out, who takes his life in his hands with razor sharp sheets of steel, just so YOUR liability is covered. How bold of you to create such a ridiculous argument as GROSS NEGLIGENCE, as your answer for sticking him with bad designed installation conditions.

Who do you hire? Monkeys or human being laborers?

I hope you'll express your condolences when his family needs workers comp to come through for the house payments, when he falls off the roof or from staging with a shard of steel coming down on him. Not funny.

Is there a more lame excuses possible, to keep things frustrating, as it might blow away, if left unsecured? Wouldn't the clips actually prevent some form of this happening, if they were designed to work effectively by a caring competent engineer?

Nothing new here, is there. Cover your Own but and leave the working man to take the risk and pain. Why innovate, when we can use far fetched excuses and get rich, while another guy works under stress and difficult conditions?

I'm glad I quit school.

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Here's what I would have tried to say to the gentleman looking for ease and safety:

"OK, let's look into that on a per application basis. If it makes things SAFER and EASIER for the deadly game of steel sheet fastening, I'm all for it!"

Nahhhhh. That's too much work. It implies a real situation is requiring a functional solution, and risk of liability at the desk level. what about the real world level where the guy can die, installing?

Who cares??? No one with a cushy indoor drafting / engineering job, driving a Porche, that's who. No one who would get less pieces per truck load of cheap roll form steel, palletized. That would cost money below the line. Strictly forbidden.

Hello "Guest",

I'm not sure whether you are the same "Guest" who started the Topic.

Please note the Forum is not for making personal attacks on others.

Perhaps you don't realize I don't have a table saw, or own a Porsche, or do the things you say I do, or have done, etc.....

I too have seen a whole bundle of roof decking fly up like a deck of cards when the wind picked up, was a scary experience.

chazl

Besides the danger of wind, the panels are made so you have a larger error factor of placing the girts on the wall. You would have to use a transit in placing the girts to insure the clips on the panel clip onto the girts, which take much more time. It is easy enough to put the panel in place and clamp it off to the last sheet before screwing it to the girts.

Chazl

I've used a hook system in the past for decorative building cladding panels. These hooked onto rails with one panel hiding the fixings for the previous one (ship-lap style) or with interlocking panels where just the 1st & last panels in a run were fixed. This was in the UK so i don't know if the rules are different where you are.

You need at least two people doing the job. The hook idea isn't going to do you any favors.

You have to be able to hold in or stretch the sheets as they are being screwed into place and the person with the screw gun can't do both.

If you don't you'll end up with your sheets not being strait up and down when you're done and it will look lousy.

This is besides the safety issues.

There is a system that has clips on the girts so you can just lock them in place. The sheets do not have to be screwed. But once again every clip on the girts have to be plum with each other. I am not sure what they are called but I have used them before.