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05/16/2021 9:22 PM

Coneheads....

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05/16/2021 9:47 PM

Whatever it is, it accelerates at impossible rates, moves extremely rapidly, and sometimes disappears abruptly.

See a connection?

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05/16/2021 10:08 PM

It looks like a reflection in the window to me...I think he might have one of these hanging from the rearview mirror...haha

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05/17/2021 12:24 AM

I think it's interesting that the sightings started right after an up-grade. The video....is a processed video of radar and IR. They have no cockpit camera images. We don't even know if the targets can be seen visually at those distances. It's hard to see how anybody could relate the video, without training....I find no references...such as to determine spacial motion that has everyone excited. I see a bracketed disturbance in the image, but can not determine relative motion. I see no craft. No definition.

How many input sensors are used for that image? Are the signals "circuitry detention and processing times" accounted for? Are external networked sensors used for processing?

I just don't trust a synthesized image that much. Especially an UFO making hard turns, instant accelerations, and translation thru media densities. That is from the ghost signal family. The anti-electronic warfare department.

To listen to the pilots, these are quite common now. Perhaps an array or formation of sensors could direct a hyper missile for a close up conformation. Is something really there?

Being that this has been going on for so long, and apparently the navy isn't that worried about it, the navy must have an idea of what it is. If you were in charge of fleet security, and these being reported since 2014, would your superiors be satisfied with "we don't know"?

Perhaps one of these new hyper-mach missiles can catch one.

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05/17/2021 6:53 AM

"Of course UFOs exist; if we knew what they were, they wouldn't be UFOs." - Anon.

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05/18/2021 10:33 AM

...yes!

UFO is used as a classification...and thus 'identified' by being called a 'UFO'...

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05/17/2021 8:11 AM

The proffered velocities and accelerations of some of these objects seem more like analysis errors than real kinematic values. If they were real I would expect additional effects from the environment like the rooster tail from the RafaelM in a low altitude loop.

Cherenkov radiation is a relativistic effect of the kind of environmental effects I anticipate any solid object exceeding the sonic speed of a medium (air) should produce. But none of the unexplained images from that 60 minutes report included any corroborating secondary effects.

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05/17/2021 12:51 PM

Enters water with no splash?

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05/17/2021 3:51 PM

I did not hear a claim of entering water without a splash. I did hear the claim that the ship crew announced "Splash, Splash" but not if the did or did not observe a splash of water.

Your claim of "no splash" is exactly how accidental false information is added to an account.

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05/17/2021 4:19 PM

Splash just means it appeared to have hit the water....What I was referring to was that there was no visible eruption of water plume that would be expected with an object striking the water...

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05/17/2021 9:32 PM

I never saw the object submerged in water either.

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05/17/2021 3:48 PM

I have yet to see any definitive evidence (and we are talking about aliens here, not unidentified objects that are yet to be positively identified in a rational manner).

All the latest video releases I have seen are of poor quality and have been analyzed by others and far better explanations and evidence given disproving any alien spacecraft connection.

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Leaked: Pentagon's UFO -BUSTED! - YouTube

People will believe what they want to believe regardless of anything anyone here says and any evidence and discussion given to the contrary. Same with flat earthers and free energy self-proclaimed 'pundits', you just cannot change some peoples opinions and beliefs so it is a bit pointless to try and have a meaningful discussion on the subject.

So no from me. No aliens flying around on earth. Period.

Is there life on other worlds? I would like to think so, wouldn't we all? But that is a different speculative discussion altogether.

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05/17/2021 9:59 PM

Yeah, I have to agree. The video you referenced pretty much explains how the released videos can be explained without any extraterrestrials.

Pilots are not immune to optical illusions.

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05/17/2021 10:08 PM

Agree. Why would any advanced life form want to come here? Morbid curiousity?

And if they weren't advanced life forms, then we would have their cadavers in some freezer in some government building in some undisclosed location.

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05/18/2021 10:20 AM

Why would any advanced life form want to come here?

Maybe we're actually living in a zoo...

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05/18/2021 10:41 AM

I like the idea purported to Willy Ley. We are a tourist stop like the Grand Canyon. He claimed that the near dual planet pair of the Earth and Moon make us a novelty to visit.

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05/21/2021 5:52 AM

Just wait till they discover an ancient alien base in a cave on the far side of the moon.

The walls,covered in DNA from a massive explosion,and the DNA is human,and pieces of advanced technology everywhere.

The moon was once a supply terminal for the Earth colony,and when the humans lost the war,the supplies were cut off and the humans reverted back to a primitive existence.

All of the foregoing is from a sci-fi book I read many years ago,but I am not sure of the title,seems it was something like "The day of Their return"?

Maybe SE can find it;He is the undisputed guru of searches.

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05/18/2021 5:05 PM

Judging from the past year, I'd say that's true. Or maybe it's a three-ring circus with Joe, Nancy, and Chuckie as ring leaders?

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05/19/2021 10:34 AM

There he is, that sharp toungued devil.

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05/19/2021 4:45 PM

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05/17/2021 11:50 PM

The mfo,s r out there

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05/18/2021 3:56 AM

ALL information is subject to interpretation.

I don't truly trust anything I see in video,it is so easily and convincingly altered.

For instance,the signs you see while watching a game,that appear on the back fence are computer generated.So for me,all video is out for evidence of UFO's(unless of course,I take the video myself).

However,I do believe that nature is not wasteful,and that the universe is full of life.

Living organisms have been found thousands of feet down bore holes,under extreme pressures and temperatures.

Living creatures exist in very high altitudes,carried around the planet by winds.

There are organisms that can dehydrate and hibernate in space,immune to radiation,near absolute zero,organisms thriving in sulfuric acid,and there are many other extremophiles.

Earth has only a small sample of possible life forms.

Humans have a limited knowledge of physics.

It was once thought that no one could survive at faster than 30 MPH,because they could not breathe.

Then it was breaking the sound barrier that was considered impossible.

Now we think that C is the maximum speed.

We cannot imagine the technologies that may exist outside of our measurable constraints;The advanced technologies that make our understanding of them impossible to even imagine?;Violations of inertia,propulsion,warping of space time that would allow movement without disturbing the surrounding with turbulence?

Can a fish imagine outer space?

Insofar as certain types of UFO's yes,I know they exist.I was struck by many in a bar room fight one night when I was younger.I was transported through time and space and woke up many miles away much later, with bright lights shining in my face as I was being wheeled down a hall way by strange looking masked creatures,but it seemed to all happen in an instant.I was unable to speak for many weeks,because my jaws were wired shut.(That is when I learned ventriloquism and sign language).

Now,all jokes aside, there are certain to be older,wiser and more advanced civilizations than ours.

I hope they are benevolent,and not malevolent,carrying a book on "How to serve man".

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05/18/2021 10:33 AM

I'm pretty sure there are otherlife forms in the universe, a famous quote concluded it would be a huge waste of space if we were it.

Obviously if they can zip around the galaxy they are far more advanced than we are and possibly live a whole lot longer than we do. In any case I am sure they see us as that uncontacted amazonian tribe of the milkyway and avoid distrubing us as we do have anthropological value as a fore runner species to study. Possibly one of the few species still found in the galaxy that has not acheived ......

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05/18/2021 12:48 PM

Maybe the earth is the trash bin of the universe. Maybe life is un-natural, a deadly infection, and forbidden from the universe, and all life found is dumped here.

That's just as valid as anything else.

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05/18/2021 5:50 PM

I find it interesting that the Pentagon confirms it cant explain the images; I would assume they have some very high tech means to identify them.

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05/18/2021 6:49 PM

Aliens are invading! We need to build a wall!

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05/19/2021 12:06 AM

It's already been built around the Capitol building.

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05/19/2021 10:29 AM

They can easily get over that wall.

We need more of those C band satellite dishes.

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05/21/2021 4:30 AM

I have a complete C-Ku Band system for sale if interested,even has the dual C-Ku band LNB's.Right now,it's being used for a bird bath,but it can be made ready on demand.

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05/21/2021 4:41 AM

I think all walls should be torn down;

Politicians should lead by example.

Start with those walls around the gated housing where some of the politicians live.

All in favor,say "I".

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05/21/2021 2:57 AM

It will be interesting to see what the upcoming report says. Will they really report that they do not know what these images are? That will start a whole new industry, maybe even some new religions.

If they are truly mysterious, what cost and how long will it take for an answer? What priority does this puzzle have?

Has anyone heard if the report might contain physical evidence? Or any evidence besides visual images, sensor data and human testimony? Maybe a material or contact impressions. Something hard and physical.

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05/21/2021 5:34 AM

It is too late to stop them.

They have been here for millions of years.

Consider the ants for example.

And other insect colonies.

Their form of government has endured for millions of years,has survived all natural holocausts and still they go about their business unperturbed by the so called higher life forms.They are about as concerned about us as we are about them.

Kick over an ant mound,and there is no tentacle-pointing trying to place blame,they simply get to work with repairs.

I would not want to be an ant or insect,not many people would,and that is why the insects,the meek, will inherit the Earth long after we have turned into fossilized layers of metallic,radioactive,plastic,and nitrate/nitrite preserved meats.(The hot dogs will still be edible.)

As George Burns said when asked about all of the preservatives in modern food,"At my age,I will take all of the preservatives I can get."

Pessimist? No, I am an optimist, a realist,I am certain this will come to pass,but there will be no one around to record it.

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