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How to construct a 4 Inputs OR Gate?

10/27/2022 1:44 PM

I want to run a device which are being driven by 4 induction motors. Each motor to be protected by a MPCB. In case any of a MPCB has been shut down, all motors will be shut down simultaneously.

How to construct it? Any commercial product existed in the market?

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Re: How to construct a 4 Inputs OR Gate?

10/27/2022 2:23 PM

I don't know what type of motor control relays that you are using, decades ago with the ones we had, AUX switches could be screwed to the relay. One could place a switch on each relay, and series them to activate your final function.

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Re: How to construct a 4 Inputs OR Gate?

10/27/2022 3:31 PM

You just run the control voltage through auxiliary contacts for each MPCB and use a manual override momentary circuit for start up....

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Re: How to construct a 4 Inputs OR Gate?

10/27/2022 5:54 PM

Here is one way:

Motor Protection Circuit Breaker or MPCB | Electrical4U

Wire the NC (normally closed) terminals (shown in the picture wired to the green LED) of the 4 MPCBs in series. All 4 MPCBs need to be untripped for AC to pass through all NC connections. Use this series circuit to feed voltage to a Normally Open 3-phase Relay or Solid State Relay which is in series with the main CB.

Note: If the NC connection on the MPCB is not closed when it is not powered, a momentary NO switch may be wired in parallel with the 4 NC MPCB connections.

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Re: How to construct a 4 Inputs OR Gate?

10/30/2022 9:13 PM

I agree.Keep it simple.

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Re: How to construct a 4 Inputs OR Gate?

10/28/2022 3:03 AM

That would be a logical "and"; in the event of any <...MPCB...> going open-circuit, all the others do too. All four <...MPCB...> units would need to engage simultaneously for it to work, so some form of start-up timer needs to be in place, as indicated above.

Anything can be achieved by appropriate design. If in doubt, consult an Electrical Designer.

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Re: How to construct a 4 Inputs OR Gate?

10/28/2022 4:00 AM

The MPCB can be purchased with auxiliary contacts. You can use NO configuration so when the MPCB is closed the contact is closed. Wire the 4 contacts in series to either a control relay or to the contactor(s)/starter(s) you are using to control the motors. Any of the breakers trip then everything shuts down.

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10/28/2022 7:13 AM

In addition to that, consideration has to be given to starting the motors, from the perspective of a non-simultaneous start, which might be necessary not to overload the supply.

That's why detailed design is advocated. This isn't something that can be just lashed together or bought off the shelf.

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10/28/2022 5:55 AM

Can you just use a single MPCB to drive all four motors in parallel?

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10/28/2022 7:15 AM

In such circumstances, how can one breaker protect against one stalled motor among the other three (rhetorical question - NNTR)?

Detailed design considerations are necessary.

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10/28/2022 7:16 AM

Consider having one motor that drives a mechanism that feeds all four mechanical loads simultaneously, instead.

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10/28/2022 6:54 PM

Put them in parallel.

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10/29/2022 5:06 AM

This is a simple four input OR gate

But we need a lot more information.

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