Human Remains after implosion

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HiTekRedNek Guru Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: 44.56024"N 15.307971E Posts: 7233 Good Answers: 258	Human Remains after implosion 07/10/2023 7:48 AM
	The Ocean Gates submersible imploded at an unknown depth, and possible human remains have been recovered. How would they even be identifiable after exposure to those depths/pressure?(approx. 6000psi). Perhaps jewelry, clothing, or teeth fillings would survive intact, but human flesh and bone would be unidentifiable, even with DNA. Have scientists ever exposed mammalian flesh to those kind of pressures? Perhaps, for instance, in a lab using pork cadavers, etc.? I know the people did not suffer, for the collapse happened in less than .001 seconds. Not even time to blink. __________________ "A man never stands so tall as when he stoops to help a child." "Never argue with a stupid person.They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience" "Homo homini lupus"
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Rixter Guru Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: About 4000 miles from the center of the earth (+/-100 mi) Posts: 9458 Good Answers: 1081	#1 Re: Human Remains after implosion 07/10/2023 8:51 AM
	Liquids and solids are not affected by these pressures, only gasses. The human body is made of solids, liquids, and gas within the lungs, sinuses, and digestive tract. The gas is the problem and the adiabatic compression to 400 atmospheres in one millisecond would generate considerable heat (~1500^oK), which would be quickly quenched by the cold seawater. https://www.reddit.com/r/theydidthemath/comments/14hg2c2/request_how_hot_would_the_air_inside_the_titan/# Since your DNA is in every cell of the body, I can imagine that some recoverable remains could still be on the pieces of the submersible that were recovered.
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HiTekRedNek Guru Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: 44.56024"N 15.307971E Posts: 7233 Good Answers: 258	#2 In reply to #1 Re: Human Remains after implosion 07/10/2023 11:21 AM
	Here is a video of a steel ball collapse under high pressure. If it was evacuated(no gas inside) before the pressure was applied, it would be much worse. The crushing of the bodies would principally be done by the surrounding shell, rather that the pressure itself. Imagine a 2000 mph crash into a solid object. https://www.google.com/search?client=avast-a-3&q=steel+bal+collapsed+by+high+pressure&oq=steel+bal+collapsed+by+high+pressure&aqs=avast..69i64.4j0j1&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:52d13d5d,vid:BnUCmmHxHZA __________________ "A man never stands so tall as when he stoops to help a child." "Never argue with a stupid person.They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience" "Homo homini lupus"
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Rixter Guru Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: About 4000 miles from the center of the earth (+/-100 mi) Posts: 9458 Good Answers: 1081	#3 In reply to #2 Re: Human Remains after implosion 07/10/2023 3:46 PM
	2000 meters (from the video) is approximately 200 atmospheres pressure. If the steel ball were evacuated, it would have a differential pressure of 201 vs. 200 atmospheres. If it were solid steel, it would be unaffected. I agree, when the structure failed, the bodies were slammed with carbon fiber or a wall of water. At that speed, it doesn't make any difference. It's not just the static pressure but the dynamics.
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