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Vogtle Unit 3 Goes On Line

07/31/2023 2:39 PM
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07/31/2023 4:27 PM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-nuclear_protests_in_the_United_States

Historical Construction Costs of Global Nuclear Power Plants...

The siting and construction costs have been going up when they should have been going down...I believe the activist element using scare tactics is responsible...

https://thebreakthrough.org/articles/historical-construction-costs-of-global-nuclear-power-reactors

Pretty clear to see what happened from this graph....Irrational fear has driven the cost up to irrational heights...anyone can see that nuclear power is a bargain, it's fear that is expensive....

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07/31/2023 5:20 PM

..."Finally, despite new nuclear reactor designs being safer, reactor design approval times still take several years, and these delays cost money and discourage new plants from ever being built. Regulators appear to regulate based on the risk of disaster from the 1970s, not 2017. AAF recommends a focus on one of the most significant regulatory liabilities of nuclear power plants: nuclear waste management. Mitigating the pecuniary and risk exposure of waste management, along with aligning regulation with the (low) risk generated by nuclear facilities will help to make the power source competitive once again.

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Last year, AAF found that the average nuclear power plant must pay at least $8.6 million in regulatory costs and $22 million in fees to the Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC). That research focused exclusively on the administrative costs of producing nuclear power, mainly the paperwork and fees required by NRC, in addition to security support.

Based on a review of publicly reported 10-K data, AAF finds the average nuclear reactor must navigate $219 million in regulatory liabilities ($60 million annually per plant), with many of the newest burdens arising in 2012. In that year, operation and maintenance costs, and fuel liabilities spiked dramatically. Using the Mercatus Center’s RegData tool, AAF found the number of regulatory restrictions from NRC correlates almost perfectly with rising operation and maintenance costs (as reported by the Energy Information Administration)."...

https://www.americanactionforum.org/research/putting-nuclear-regulatory-costs-context/

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08/03/2023 9:47 PM

Besides regulatory costs, practically every nuclear power plant proposal in the U. S. faces costly litigation as anti-nuclear activists challenge every regulatory filing as "inadequate" in some way. These organizations are usually well-funded by billionaire leftists with an agenda that does not often match that of the general public. Most of the suits ultimately are dismissed when the challenged forms are re-filed, but in the meantime, injunctions, additional regulatory delays stemming from resubmissions, plus legal fees, add hundreds of millions of dollars to the cost of the plant. There really should be a "loser pays" requirement on these suits.

Mining is another industry with the same problem, especially uranium mining.

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08/04/2023 12:39 PM

Combine this with Comment #4 and you can see that we have a real public relations problem. Starting a reverse campaign with elementary school children may be the best way to combat this, but is much too slow for what the world needs.

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08/04/2023 4:30 PM

It is no longer the Soviet Union who is playing propaganda wars to undermine Democracy.

It is now our own rabid Americans who spread this propaganda.

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08/01/2023 5:40 PM

. . . for the new millennia.

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08/03/2023 9:36 PM

That irrational fear didn't come spontaneously. The Soviet Union's spy agency financed "environmental" groups and media influencers to campaign against nuclear power in the U. S. and Europe, perhaps in hopes of crippling NATO nuclear weapons programs as well as making western economies less prosperous. This was one of the revelations from the opening of KGB files after the fall of the Soviet Union.

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08/04/2023 1:23 AM

Now that's a good conspiracy theory! The dogs of Trump couldn't of done better or did they start it?

And with the neutralization of the spent rods, there's no build up highly radioactive spent rods to store. So, why should anyone complain?

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08/04/2023 7:45 PM

Some people know, some don't.

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08/05/2023 2:27 PM

. . . and those who don't add their off-topic rating.

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08/05/2023 5:28 AM

You can see from this graphic that the installed cost of Nuclear should be around $1500 per kw....

"The average installed cost of wind projects in 2021 was $1,500/kW,"

When we take into account that wind turbine generation only produces about 30 - 35% of installed capacity, that would put the actual cost per kw produced at 3 x $1500 or $4500...and that is intermittent production...

https://www.energy.gov/eere/wind/articles/land-based-wind-market-report-2022-

...and you don't want to be anywhere near one of these bird choppers in a tornado...

Energy company to pay up to $35 million after turbines killed eagles

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/04/09/eagle-turbine-deaths-settlement/

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08/05/2023 11:12 AM

There is no question that nuclear power is the preferred power source of our immediate future.

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08/22/2023 9:57 PM

Yes, fear is very expensive. Some fears are valid, tho. War has been a constant factor since the beginning of life. The reactor in Ukraine has even been targeted.

Darwin? Evolution? Survival of the fittest? Survival of the fittest, by definition, requires a "last man standing". There can only be just one "fittest" left standing. And, that can lead to war/cannibalism. It's not necessarily the nuclear field causing the fear.

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