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Life Span of Contactors

12/09/2023 10:41 AM

Is there any program like number of hours which contactors can be replaced avoiding shutdowns and failure?

I am talking to a heavy duty contactors in general in severe use.

Preventive maintenance.

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Re: LIFE SPAN OF CONTACTORS

12/09/2023 2:53 PM

As far as I know there is no set time to replace a contactor in any application, but a general guideline could be the number of starts and stops every day....the more, the shorter the lifespan...but I feel if you got 10 years out of it, you got your money's worth....

This is why you have preventive maintenance to check and test components for wear and tear, and replace when needed...

There are too many variables to consider, I've seen it all, ants, lightning damage, frogs lizards snakes, failure of the other components, short cycling, water damage, loose electrical connections, defective parts, random failures...

I generally when I want a contactor to last as long as possible employ an oversized contactor, and spray WD 40 around the exterior, regularly...

If you have someone who can check it everyday with just a IR thermometer to look for hot spots, that's a good preventative measure...If a failure is imminent, there is generally an abnormal hot spot, if it is checked frequently the guy checking knows the normal temperatures and can spot a problem immediately....

http://www.naicranes.com/engineering/technical_reports/contactors.pdf

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Re: LIFE SPAN OF CONTACTORS

12/10/2023 12:34 AM

IEEE has standards that relate to system reliability, such as this “

IEEE Guide for Electric Power Distribution Reliability Indices, which has data that I have used to evaluate the benefits of using various technologies to construct a solution for various clients.

Manufacturers also have data on their own equipment that give you statistical data upon which you may decide to take preemptive measures. It also may be possible using high speed & sensitive data collection and analysis tools to detect imminent failure of a contactor, such as coil amperage, timing of armature action, high speed load current and voltage analysis at contactor opening and closing times, to detect imminent failure due to pitting, load spring weakening, armature jamming or wedging, lamination failure, pole cross-talk, earth leakage resistance, or some other anomalous behavior that could indicate a future failure.

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Re: LIFE SPAN OF CONTACTORS

12/10/2023 7:11 AM

In a previous life, the contactors had their top shell removed every 6 months to check for contact erosion and at the same time the shading rings were checked for security, insulation and not broken or cracked and excessive discolouration of the coil. The mechanical parts of the contactor were also checked

This was on contactors where the plant ran 24 x x7 for 363 days as year with a planned shutdown of a portion of the plant for a few hours every week to check some part of the plant.

A mean time between failure was logged to see if the maintenance was fit for purpose and not too short a time frame or excessively long. Doing thermal scans while running was discouraged because of the injuries that would occur if a contactor failed and flashed over as had happened.

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Re: Life Span of Contactors

12/12/2023 2:05 AM

Contactors are tested at factory for their life and it is listed in data sheets. The life is in terms pf number of operations, separately Electrical as well as for Mechanical. These figures are generally on higher side of 100,000 operations.

Generally speaking, contactors fail due to poor components or due to bad installation/maintenance.

I have seen rusted core of the contactors, welded power contacts that prevented contact opening when command is given. I have seen poor wire termination that puts pressure on the contactor and prevents proper mating of contacts. There may be many other causes that end the life of contactors prematurely.

Voltage applied to the Contactor coils is also an issue as higher voltage (than rated) causes overheating and shortens life of the coils.

A good make with proper installation and occassional check should ensure 30 years life for these contactors, barring certain specific exceptional operating conditions.

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Re: Life Span of Contactors

12/12/2023 5:58 PM

There was a lively debate about contactor maintenance (among other things) at my old place of work (years and years ago). One engineer (corporate) wanted us to replace contactors regularly. We were to calculate the number of times per day a contactor cycled (switched on and off) and, using the manufacturer's no. of cycles specification, we were to determine when we should replace them.

Engineering protested saying that with the thousands of contactors in use in the factory, the maintenance windows during shutdowns would not be enough. We would have to extend the time or hire people just to replace them. Plus the risk that there might be instances where replacement was incorrect, miswired, poorly wired, and other things such that starting the plant back up might incur delays.

Accounting just asked, "how many contactors are we talking about and how much are they?"

The idea was axed right then.

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Re: Life Span of Contactors

12/17/2023 5:58 PM

An infrared camera is indispensable when used to determine hot spots in equipment.Photos can be taken and logged without opening the enclosures,it is almost like x ray vision.A hot spot will show up even through the metal enclosure.

This entails no risk to employees checking the equipment because the enclosures are not opened.

Management can then decide when to service it based on ranking index of machine expenditures. (RIME).

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Re: Life Span of Contactors

04/05/2024 12:30 AM

I mean solenoid lifespan. Because the thing is, there is this interface relay on pc board that has its contact stuck.

The PC board cost like 6 grand. What I did was replaced the contactor which the relay actuates and the problem is gone. This was a mitsubishi contactor which already been of service about 22 years.

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04/05/2024 1:04 AM
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Re: Life Span of Contactors

04/23/2024 7:51 AM

I remember seeing a GE size1 contactor that controlled a clip motor that cycled from forward to reverse every second. 7 days a week,24/7 It was replace every year,with no contactor failures between changes.When I removed and inspected it,the anvil was hammered and slightly mushroomed,but the shading coil was unbroken,and it just kept on working.

The failures were mainly with the motor,and the repetitive F/R cycling.I recommended a pneumatic actuator instead of the motor.A/C pneumatic solenoids also have a shading coil that can be broken and deformed by millions of cycles,so I suggested a DC solenoid,which has no shading coil.A small dc power supply was required,and I deliberately oversized it by a factor of 2 to ensure long life.

The input to the power supply was protected by MOV's and properly sized fuses.

This was in the 1970's

I met a retired maintenance employee from the plant many years later,and asked about the clip controls and he said it was still working with the original parts 15 years later.

This was a critical step in the process,and if it failed,the whole section had to stop,and the result was a fault in the final product and production quantity.

I designed it to last,not to be replaced by minimalist engineering.

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