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Double Slit Experiment in a Vacuum?

07/07/2024 9:09 PM

Has the double slit experiment been performed in a near perfect vacuum?Does the size or shape of the slit or splitter make any difference?How about with more than one slit?How many ways can a photon be spit?How about multiple slits in series,with variable spacing between the splitters and slits?

I am curious about all of the variables that have been tried in this experiment.

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Re: double slit experiment in a vacuum?

07/08/2024 4:19 AM

Sounds more like a Science question than an Engineering one.

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07/08/2024 10:43 AM

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Re: Double Slit Experiment in a Vacuum?

07/08/2024 10:12 AM

Seems to be a good experiment for the newest captives on ISS

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Re: Double Slit Experiment in a Vacuum?

07/08/2024 10:55 AM

Any and all science questions that involve motion........is an engineering question and has an engineering solution. But this unproven dogma of light has blinded all.

The slit experiment is only a mystery because of the dogma that has restricted you. Such as the idiot photon concept.

And to get that pattern all dimensions have to be tweaked and focused.

Light does not hum, it squeaks. If you want to see and hear it squeak, precision rectify an antenna feedpoint.

After you change your pants, insert 1/2 cycle into feed point................and get one "photon" out of antenna. One solitary emission. For every one full cycle inserted, two emissions are produced.

You can try it or you can deny it.

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Re: Double Slit Experiment in a Vacuum?

07/08/2024 4:44 PM

Well, air doesn't do anything except mess it up a little bit as a tiny bit of scattering takes place. It should work slightly better in a vacuum.

You can figure out what happens with various arrangements of slits by assuming light is a wave and each opening acts as a new source of waves. All the waves will reinforce or cancel wherever they hit the screen depending on the distance to all the slits.

The light doesn't behave as photons until it is detected and its energy is converted to another form. Don't ask how that can be, nobody knows, AFAIK...

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Re: Double Slit Experiment in a Vacuum?

07/09/2024 1:39 PM

Accelerator light sources all operate in the highest quality vacuums humanity can produce. (To my surprise, the accelerated charged particles and photons produced deflect the few remaining molecules toward the ion and other types of vacuum pumps at the edges of the vacuum chambers.) Single and double-slit phenomena are routinely part of the design of an experimental photon beamline.

One example of this use of the double slit phenomena is the Mach-Zehnder interferometer. A simple glance at the complicated mathematics of the simple double-slit analysis in that latter paper should tell you why multiple slits are analyzed. It just gets far too complex. That doesn't mean numerous slits are never used, the edges of a diffraction grating or fresnel lens create multiple slits.

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07/09/2024 11:06 PM

Correction: Multiple slits are not analyzed. This is just as complicated as the infamous three-body problem.

This short animation is but one solution of many solutions.

<I would've sworn that negation was originally there.>

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Re: Double Slit Experiment in a Vacuum?

07/20/2024 4:07 PM

How about multiple slits in series,with variable spacing between the splitters and slits?

The far-field diffraction pattern is well approximated by the Fourier transform of the slit pattern. The far-field is where the distance to the screen is much greater than the dimensions of the slit pattern.

In 1965, a fast algorithm (Fast Fourier Transform or FFT) was discovered that is widely used in image and signal processing. The FFT operates on 1,2, or any number of dimensions.

With the fft, the diffraction pattern can be computed from the "slit pattern" and vice-versa.

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07/20/2024 4:22 PM

It is impossible to measure anything without disturbing it in some manner.Perhaps photons are being carried by a wave,and the photon itself is blocked by the barrier between the slits when observed ,but the wave continues on,creating the interference pattern.Imagine a cork being carried downstream and striking a rock midstream.The cork will stop when it hits the rock,but the wave created continues on down stream.

The act of observing it disturbs the harmony between the rock and the surface of the water,which are initially traveling at the same speed.

This is just a spur of the moment idea brought on by Gentleman Jack and it may not make any sense tomorrow.

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07/20/2024 8:12 PM

What you're saying sounds a lot like the de Broglie Bohm Pilot wave theory.

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07/21/2024 9:34 AM

Great link! Thanks!

Perhaps Gentleman Jack staggered into something over his head,and splashed it over onto me,but it is still deeper than it is wide,and only a few drops landed within my line of sight.Most of it is over my head as well.Perhaps G.J. will use smaller drops next time,or perhaps I understand and don't understand at the same time and G.J. reduced it to the present state,in the present time and place.

Perhaps I am posting and not posting this reply,and I do not know which..or maybe I do?

Gimme another round of G.J...or not,or both.

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