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Cable Tray Threaded Rod Calculation

08/09/2024 3:57 AM

I want to select a suitable threaded rod for cable tray of 600mm width and 75mm height, length 1.5 m and weight is 19.6kgs.

Weight of 1.5 meters length of 17 cables laid on cable tray is 25.7kgs.

weight of 2 numbers of 40x40x5mm size, horizontal GI angle of length 700mm is 5.8kgs.

Total weight including cable tray, cable and GI Angle is 51.1kgs.

(We consider, 4 no's of 2 meters length threaded rod where weight on each threaded rod is 51.1kg/4 no's, is equal to 12.775kgs on each threaded rod).

As per threaded rod manufacturer's technical data sheet, the yield strength of 8mm threaded rod is 475.63 N/mm2.

I have to justify to my client that the selected 8mm threaded is suitable for my application.

Please help me with a suitable calculation.

( I am stuck with the units measured where we have calculated the total weight in KG and according to Technical data sheet the unit is in N/mm2.)

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Re: Cable Tray Threaded rod calculation

08/09/2024 4:46 AM

8 mm diameter is π x 4x4 square mm

Just divide number of Newtons by 9.81 to get kilograms.

So approximately 50 x 50 = 2500 Kg

You're well in.

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08/09/2024 6:21 AM

Just a couple of comments

π x 4x4 = 50mm^2 is quite a bit more than the actual stress area 36.6mm^2

and you wouldn't design on the yield strength

But still well in for the actual load

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08/10/2024 8:26 AM

Although the chosen tray specification is well beyond the application safety requirement, the customer may have have some cost constraints and limitations that need to be factored in and considered..

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08/10/2024 9:15 AM

I wouldn't think you'd go below M8 rod for practical reasons, but without knowing the details of the job, it seems a bit odd to hang the trays on 2m of threaded rod.

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08/10/2024 9:44 AM

I concur as you noted without knowing the details of the job, it seems a bit odd to hang the trays on 2m of threaded rod.

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Re: Cable Tray Threaded Rod Calculation

08/10/2024 10:50 AM

Universally in the US trays are hung with 1/2” threaded rod. Anything smaller is tough to work with, tools, handling, storage. My sympathy for you working with a client who wants you to justify threaded rod cost hanging cable tray. 2 meters of hanging is not that unusual, I would be concerned that 1/4” rod would give you very poor lateral stability. When the guys start pulling wire in the tray, that’s when those spindly M8 rods are going to be a problem.

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08/10/2024 11:04 AM

Agree, I thought lateral stability could be a problem, but without more detail...........

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08/13/2024 1:14 PM

See attached B-LINE recommended threaded rod for cable trays

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08/13/2024 1:17 PM

See:

https://www.eaton.com/us/en-us/products/support-systems/cable-tray-and-ladder-systems.html

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Re: Cable Tray Threaded Rod Calculation

08/22/2024 8:54 AM

Consulting the Eaton data as suggested in post#8 is good engineering!

It has to last 30 years despite corrosion [plating quality??]. Experience matters.

In practice, it is more likely a nut will fail [stripped thread] than a rod break- calculations on area of rod given by one post are misleading - shear strength is lower than tensile. How strong is the fastening to the ceiling/wall?? - they are less predictable than a rod/washer nut etc. which are testable.

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Re: Cable Tray Threaded Rod Calculation

10/18/2024 11:30 AM

Here’s the rough breakdown I followed: the load per rod is about 12.775 kg, so if you convert that to Newtons (just multiply by 9.81), you get around 125N per rod. The 8mm rod I used had a yield strength of 475.63 N/mm², which was more than enough when you factor in its cross-sectional area, around 36.6mm² for M8.

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Re: Cable Tray Threaded Rod Calculation

10/22/2024 1:01 PM

As long as your load per rod doesn’t push that limit, you should be safe. If you’re looking for more specs or want some options, I found tecnotools.com.au to be a pretty handy source for cable tray supports.

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