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Ultrasonic Waves Resonance

02/08/2025 10:55 AM

A popular school experiment, in laboratory pair tuning forks could produce waves that would resonate and crack a lab glass jar.

On the same line, can ultrasonic waves, two or more waves, shot from different spots be made to collide and resonate? Ultrasonic waves travel for great distances and resonate that may cause havoc. Or after collision, at will, made sonic wave and be heard with naked ears?

May be this concept is there since long and I might be ignorant of it, lol.

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02/08/2025 2:36 PM

I'm not so sure that I'll buy the statement that waves resonate. Waves are flowing energy. Resonance is a property of an item. Typically the dimensions of an item, the temperature, the pressure and possibly other items are needed to calculate the resonant frequency.

I'm not sure what you are asking in your second paragraph, but what I think you are trying to ask is an interesting question. Let me rewrite a question, inspired by your second paragraph, and see if it results in people providing interesting answers.

If waves (sound, light, RF, mechanical vibration, etc.) from one source pass through a wavefront of a similar type of waves from a different source, traveling through a medium of uniform impedance to that wave (air, vacuum, uniform still water, etc.), will the waves simply pass or will they mix and produce sums and differences?

If any type of waves from a single source encounter a change in impedance, will they have both transmission and reflection components similar to what is studied in radio waves? Will there be any mixing (sums and differences)?

Musical instruments, such as a guitar, have acoustical characteristics that are far more complex than six tones being generated by moving six strings of different stiffness and potentially different lengths (as fretted).

Do instruments, such as a guitar, mix and produce sums and differences, or do they just produce various tones and overtones as energy passes through their countless wooden shapes and complex air cavities?

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02/08/2025 3:38 PM

On the same line, can ultrasonic waves, two or more waves, shot from different spots be made to collide and resonate? Ultrasonic waves travel for great distances and resonate that may cause havoc. Or after collision, at will, made sonic wave and be heard with naked ears?

If you have two beamed ultrasonic high power loudspeakers, one vibrating at 200,000 Hz and the other at 201,000 Hz and you direct them toward the same spot, the two sound waves will "mix" due to any nonlinearity, generating the sum and difference frequencies, i.e. 401,000 Hz and 1000 Hz. The 1000- Hz will be audible to "naked ears".

The second ultrasonic beam can be modulated with any signal and this signal will seem to emanate from the intersection point. This effect can be used for museum displays or to send a message to a recipient, inaudible to other people who may be present.

See further explanation here.

https://www.explainthatstuff.com/directional-loudspeakers.html

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02/09/2025 11:39 AM

The link you gave explains everything that lingered in my mind. Though there are there for quite a while, hadn't come across until I read the messages from the link. Great.

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02/10/2025 7:55 AM

Interesting link.

The only downside is the weird explanation of interacting of the waves with the listener. I would presume that the modulated frequency is available along the pathway for picking up by anyone with a pair of ears, or indeed just one.

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02/10/2025 7:40 PM

Like the "beat frequency" you sometimes hear from a twin-engine boat or airplane because it can be very difficult to get the exact same RPM from both engines. I tend to notice it with boats more so than aircraft. The 'drone' of the engines slowly pulsates in amplitude over a fairly long time period if the RPM's are close.

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02/11/2025 6:23 AM

Binaural beats ca cause the brain to generate a "phantom" frequency beyond the normal hearing range. It is an illusion created by the brain that combines two different frequencies, one from each ear into the difference frequency and can affect brainwaves. Experiments have been gong on for years ,and still the picture is incomplete on how this occurs and it's effect on the brain.

Perhaps this is the reason for the Havana Syndrome, a mix of multiple frequencies that cause destruction internally to the brain by resonance in the skull? The frequencies could be varied according to the target or swept across a certain bandwidth to affect any target ?

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02/08/2025 8:52 PM

Ultrasonic waves travel for great distances and resonate that may cause havoc

Only if the two objects have the same resonates…

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02/09/2025 8:48 AM

Since every materials and /or objects have an inherent natural resonant characteristic, it is very possible for you to observe and experience the phenomena in a controlled laboratory experiment..

The resultant mixed ultrasonic frequencies produced by the two different resonating tuning forks may only break a glass jar if the resulting frequency harmonics happen to produce enough power to sustain and match the natural resonant frequency characteristic of a particular glass jar...

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02/09/2025 11:40 AM

Going slight off topic. With everything have its own natural resonance, there has been research that was using it to target and destroy cancers. Leaving other tissues unharmed.

this research has been stopped or better word suppressed for a number of reasons, but now I believe it’s started up again, which is great news.

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02/11/2025 6:38 AM

Thanks for that great link! Not Off Topic.

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02/10/2025 5:45 PM

On a larger scale. Tesla was causing buildings miles away to tremble and had to turn off his experiment. It worked similar to a kid in a swing. He emitted one strong pulse into the ground, and when the echo returned, he added another one until they built up to a dangerous level.

I am surprised the military has not used this yet; A super thumper truck as a weapon?

OH NO! Entire cities destroyed?.

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02/11/2025 5:56 AM

His thump frequency ,if properly amplified at the resonant frequency could be amplified to a destructive level.

The thumping can be quite loud at night as a rabbit packs down his nest. If you have ever slept wild you know what I mean.

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02/11/2025 4:35 PM

Although I have slept wild many times with the Boy Scouts and my time in the Army as well as recreational camping, I cannot say that I have ever noticed the thumping from a rabbit's nest. Or maybe I just wasn't paying attention.

I can easily imagine what you describe however. Something for me to listen for next time I'm catching some Zzzzz's on the ground or real close to it. A jungle hammock was a favorite tent of mine when it was just me. I preferred the ones from WWII or Korea. The Viet Nam era jungle hammocks didn't look as comfortable.

The two I had as a teenager have long since rotted and decayed away and were tossed more than forty years ago. The most comfortable sleep I ever had outdoors. Recently, I purchased one off of Ebay, not so much to use it because I'm sure it is no longer serviceable, but rather to disassemble it and use as a template to sew a reproduction.

I will make some changes in material, for instance the roof was a relatively heavy rubber coated cotton fabric that could be replaced with a much lighter coated waterproof synthetic fabric. I will try to keep much of the other fabrics fairly close because sometimes synthetics just behave very differently than the treated cotton fabrics and I want to preserve as much of the comfort characteristics as possible.

The two I had many years ago had spreader bars added to the ends, basically broom handles with holes to secure to the grommets in the hammock. That helped comfort tremendously because you were not being "squeezed into" the hammock, similar to a fancy backyard hammock.

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02/12/2025 9:28 AM

I can’t believe my eyes. I had two of those in the late 60s. 5$ a piece at army surplus. Those and a couple a cases of K rations in the trunk. We were always prepared. An ax and a Coleman gasoline lantern. White gas.

An ancient world.

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02/12/2025 5:58 PM

I strapped mine down on the back of my motorcycle. A blanket and small duffel bag with a few things and I would go camping. Of course I had to pick camping spots with suitable trees, but if it rained, I stayed, and more importantly, my bed stayed nice and dry. With the mosquito netting and the false-bottom, it was a bug-free night.

I hope to recreate one much like the originals to go camping on the "light" again. I have an industrial sewing machine that will sew through that really heavy canvas. I will also include some removable skirts for the roof in case the winds start to blow. Not having to deal with an air mattress or sleeping pad is an attractive proposition.

It might be an ancient world, but we can often find some nice nuggets of wisdom in it.

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02/11/2025 5:27 AM

I don't recall that ultrasound (ultrasonic waves) travel great distances - they are attenuated more than lower frequency sounds. The article linked elsewhere does explain some impressive range, though. Focused audio energy?

This study (Measurements of atmospheric attenuation at ultrasonic frequencies and the significance for echolocation by bats | The Journal of the Acoustical Society of America | AIP Publishing) shows that "The attenuating effect on the passage of ultrasonic sounds through air ranged from 0.7 dB/m at 30 kHz to 8 dB/m at 200 kHz. These measurements confirm theoretical expectations and earlier observations that atmospheric attenuation is progressively more severe at higher frequencies and that the atmosphere acts as a low‐pass filter for conducting sounds in the frequency range used for echolocation by bats." 8dB/m is a high level of attenuation!

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02/11/2025 6:28 AM

Elephants generate ultra low frequencies that can travel hundreds of miles. They can hear these sounds through their feet.

Elephants were the first to head for higher ground before a tsunami hit. Perhaps having ultrasound detectors could help predict a tsunami in the future.

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02/11/2025 7:03 AM

Whales also, but the media of the oceans helps.

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02/11/2025 7:42 AM

Our sun "communicates" with Earth about every 8 minutes, similar to a parent and child. There is also a similar connecting to the other planets.

Are planets and stars living beings of a nature we cannot conceive, except in Sci-Fi ,of course.

https://www.discovermagazine.com/the-sciences/sci-fi-come-to-life-portals-between-earth-and-sun-open-every-eight-minutes

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02/11/2025 6:01 AM

Does a trumpet or other wind instrument actually have a power gain to emit such a powerful sound from such a small input? I don't think so, so where does the energy come from? How is the sound amplified inside of the instrument?

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02/11/2025 7:02 AM

Well, Joshua 6:1-21, says different.

Joshua Brought down the walls of Jericho with trumpets…

hate to get religious, because the Bible so called word of God was interpreted, edited and written by man to keep power not to god but to the church.

Again, I'd hate going religious.

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02/11/2025 4:50 PM

We pray that power be used responsibly. Of course, that's always in the eyes of the beholder.

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02/11/2025 10:25 PM

That skit is ageless.

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02/12/2025 8:43 AM

A link to that skit would be nice.

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02/12/2025 6:03 PM

At your service. Our two weapons are . . .

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02/12/2025 6:06 PM

Or as seen in the History of World, Part 1

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02/11/2025 6:31 AM

Tesla said: "If you want to understand the universe, you must understand frequencies."

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