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Dual Incomer - Interlock

04/22/2025 9:09 AM

This is a dual-incomer panel (see the image), but only one contactor should be ON at any given time. Why is a timer necessary in this setup? I understand it's meant to prevent inadvertent paralleling, but why isn't a simple cross-interlock sufficient? Is there a chance that both contactors could chatter if both power sources are active at the same time?

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Re: Dual Incomer - Interlock

04/22/2025 9:27 AM

Well, it does give the first <...contactor...> time to fully release before the second one is closed.

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Re: Dual Incomer - Interlock

04/23/2025 1:02 PM

Doesn’t the auxiliary contact (NC) of the first contactor only comes back to its deenergised position when the main contacts of the first contactor are fully open, right?

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Re: Dual Incomer - Interlock

04/24/2025 4:27 AM

If that's what it says on the drawing, which is difficult to read here, then that would be correct. If it is not what is shown on the drawing, then that would be incorrect.

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Re: Dual Incomer - Interlock

04/23/2025 10:43 AM

It gives spinning motors time to wind down before being reenergized out of phase. A kinder gentler switch.

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Re: Dual Incomer - Interlock

04/23/2025 12:58 PM

That makes sense. However, I don’t have any motors connected to this panel—only instruments like power for PLCs, CCTV, and some lights. Will these types of loads be an issue?

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Re: Dual Incomer - Interlock

04/23/2025 1:20 PM

In most cases, not a problem. A few cycles, 30-60 milliseconds should be enough for all well designed equipment.

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Re: Dual Incomer - Interlock

04/24/2025 4:31 AM

So, why is 3-phase power connected to them? Ordinarily, 3-phase power is necessary for rotating objects.

Noted that there is no neutral shown on the drawing.

And, why is there any need to shut down <...PLCs, CCTV and some lights...> at all? That doesn't make any sense.

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Re: Dual Incomer - Interlock

05/03/2025 12:34 PM

This is a valid question!. The incoming power supply is from 3 phase UPS power, since the capacity of the UPS is 150kVA (IT system) and serves several distribution boards; this being one of them.

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Re: Dual Incomer - Interlock

05/03/2025 12:37 PM

After checking, it seems that when both the incoming power supplies are turned ON simultaneously from the upstream, there could be a chattering situation as both the incomers fights each other as to who closes first; may be a timer with very low setting would be helpful in this situation.

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Re: Dual Incomer - Interlock

05/08/2025 7:23 PM

This is a make before break circuit, ensuring that there is no loss of power during transfer. Both being connected is not a problem because they are the same phase.

This is also sometimes called an ABT, an Automatic Bumpless Transfer.

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