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Self-Regulating Population

08/08/2025 7:13 AM

As I have stated before goldfish are self regulating their size, based on the size of the container they are in.

A goldfish will never out grow his environment. Take a small goldfish and put it in a larger container and it will grow larger. The feedback from his waste products limits his growth and prevents reproduction.

I think the same will happen to the human race. Microplastics, chemicals, radiation, war, and as a result of the foregoing, famine.

Eventually the human race will become mostly sterile, unable to reproduce.

This will result in a steady decline of humans to a sustainable level.

Maybe a hundred years, maybe less. There is already a marked decline in new birthrates all over the world. It has dropped below a sustainable rate in some countries, mainly the most highly developed countries have the lowest birthrates.

The plastics and microplastics will eventually sink to the bottom of the ocean and be buried by the constant "snow" of decaying particles from above. I think this will be a marker of the human race for future archaeologists to ponder as the ocean floor is upthrust by tectonic churning and kneading of the thin outer shell of solid matter.

Of all the species that have ever existed on this planet, all of our current living species are only 1 percent.

Pessimists are never disappointed.

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Re: Self regulating population

08/08/2025 9:22 AM

There is a training video on the subject. This video is cleverly marketed as entertainment and has been made widely available for subtle indoctrination of the masses. To view or review this video, search the interweb for ‘Idiocracy film’.

Regarding forced evolution, a quick review of circumcision shows that after about 40,000 generations of infant male children have undergone the procedure, the foreskin continues to be standard equipment on every male child born. So, prolly not how it works.

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08/08/2025 3:58 PM

Smarty pants, maybe!

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08/29/2025 3:59 PM

Smarty Pants, two versions available, Circumcised or Original ! Various sizes.

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08/12/2025 9:32 PM

Along those same lines, pedestrians should be able to leap over cars and run 60 mph.

However, some male elephants are being born that do not develop tusks. Evolution does not take a long time.

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08/29/2025 7:59 AM

On the other hand, some male elephants are being born that never develop tusks.

An example of quick evolution, IMHO.

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08/29/2025 12:48 PM

Yes, female Asian elephants seldom develop tusks, this is true. [edit] Whoops! You already said males, responded too quickly here. Sorry about that.

On yet another hand (Hey! I’m claiming this as a Magnum PI!), some humans are born with more than the usual number of fingers. Polydactyly is considered a genetic oddity or birth defect, not evolution.

Would six-fingered people have enough of an edge that they might, in fact prove to be better-faster-stronger than human individuals with a usual set of five fingers? Dunno, but this is the basis of Survival of the Fittest.

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08/08/2025 9:45 AM

Fruit flies also regulate their population. As any sixth grade science class have demostrated. Unfortunately, STEM classes may have been replaced by Gender Studies.

Gender Studies, Add that to Microplastics, chemicals, resiation and war for reasons of population regulating.

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08/08/2025 10:50 AM

In my opinion this can not be compared. All other life forms are restricted and corralled with instinct, and environment. It’s an automatic preservation choice. We humans have very little restrictions with choice.

Our choices have no concern with the species health or the environment. We have no instinct to counter our ignorance. Or our personal desires.

Comparing humans to other lifeforms is a waste of time. We are not related. Only the physicality is common, nothing else.

We are singular and alone. We are the enigma.

The unfit trying to define fitness.

Our existence is a superposition of two states. The first state is physical, fixed and can not be changed. Dead matter physics.

The second state is biophysics. Molecules in this state has choice. Lifeforms have choice.

Probability, randomness and chaos is only the unknown choice. And it only happens here on earth.

True probability, true randomness and true chaos never has existed.

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08/08/2025 9:32 PM

I don't know, Malthus predicted a long time ago that since population increases exponentially but food production increases arithmetically, we would all starve.

I remember half a century ago when I started work the prediction was that we would be out of petroleum and freezing in the dark in another 20 years. WE're still here.

I'm thinking the we might have a bit more ingenuity than those goldfish.

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08/08/2025 11:39 PM

I agree with you that we will be regulated by some outside "something." It may be food supply, it may be energy, it may be something else. You may not be religious, you may not believe in a supreme being; however, many religions are a good philosophy of life.

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08/09/2025 7:45 AM

I don’t believe it will be food that will regulate population. I beleive it’ll be potable fresh water.

as far as a supreme being.i also believe there is one. And what I’ve seen in life, he has one huuuge sense of humor.

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08/12/2025 10:54 PM

For many years this topic has been debated (since 1800s).

The last consensus from those who study the subject : population will peak somewhere around 10.4 billion before the end of this century. (8-12 billion).. then stable (assuming.. well, a lot)

Estimates before 1960.. a much lower number due to food production limitations. Then the "green revolution" happened. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Revolution.

The current limiting factors : fertility and mortality.

so.. yea I guess one could draw parallels with goldfish.

More people in the life boat (earth).. the fewer the options (individual choices)

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08/13/2025 12:25 AM

Humans have one parameter to consider than no other animal has: money.

We can see from the previous population bursts that money has a lot to do with behaviour. Empires fall due to those with the most control over the money either falling out with each other leading to wars, or self destruction by ignoring those with less and concentrating on their own gain.

Parts of the human population will meet with (probably) sudden decline, while others will continue, perhaps with changed perspective.

Other parts will slowly wilt as the aging generations are not replaced with enough to keep the money flowing.

Japan is in population decline: in some areas taxi driving is a retirement job with drivers in their 80s. This decline is partly due to the viewpoints of the population after the war.

As each country makes its own rules, the population flux will be reasonably independent.

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08/13/2025 5:33 AM

The world's birthrate is decreasing, however the existing population is living longer due to improved health and medication, advances in medical surgery etc. and the food supply is sustainable due to improved farming etc. OK with some exceptions, like Eggs in the USA but that is due to a disease (Bird Flu)!
What we can't control is Nature itself, Volcanoes, Earthquakes, Floods, Forest Fires.
If we look at how many Volcanoes are suddenly re-activating after lying dormant for years, some for centuries, there could be a major distruption to life for millions of people which could lead to major loss of life and the knock-on effects, loss of food crops due to sunlight being blocked out.
All we can do is live our lives as we do and wait and see what the future unfolds.
Interesting question; Would (AI) Androids survive if we didn't?

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