Salt water to fuel investments?

Thanks vader-

I appreciate you not being sarcastic to my question...dickhead

Don't mention it. I just wanted you to know that these ideas are pure scams, that's all.

Seriously isn't there something re: hydrogen fuel cells or other alternative energy sources

that a good ground floor investment. It's not just the high cost of gas, it's getting off the Arab teat and all the problems involved with being tied to them.

Thanks

Hantayo

Frankly speaking, I'm sick to death of all these conspiracy theory loonies going about claiming that the CIA or whoever is suppressing free energy technology. I'm not surprised if these weirdos are the same ones pushing these scams, and are making up these stories to promote their fraudulent activities. That's why I was so blunt to you: I have no wish to see a well-intentioned person get swindled of his hard-earned money.

The problem with these water to gas scams is that they all use electrolysis to break water down into H₂ & O₂. The amount of energy you put in to achieve this is much more than the energy you'll recover from burning the H₂ gas. If you've never done electrolysis before, let me tell you now.

1. Fill a tank with water. Add salt to improve conductivity if you want.
2. Place 2 or more metal terminals in the water. Make sure there's an even number of them. Connect the terminals together to form two separate sets. Make sure they don't contact one another.
3. Connect each set on terminals to DC source e.g. a battery. One terminal is connected to each pole of the battery.
4. The gas you see collecting at the cathode (the negative terminal) is H₂ gas.

Once you've done this, you can see that the amount of gas produced in very small. It will never be enough to power a car. If you like, you can connect an ammeter to monitor the power consumption. Now scale that up, and you can see it's not worth it.

I hope you understand now why I had to be so direct. It's not only you, but everyone else who's also thinking of buying into these scams, that I'm trying to warn. And unfortunately, some people just won't listen to reason; you have to yell at them to get their attention.

Thank You.

Don't mention it.

Don't apologize for being blunt. All of these quick-fix schemes have the harmful effect of causing people not to take the energy crises seriously. As long as they think you can burn water in a car, CAFE standards will not be raised, solar will not be invested in, nuclear will not be tolerated, and so on.

Thanks for the support. You are right, I have nothing to apologize for as my intentions are good. Anyway, I just wanted to make sure that all the do-gooders out there who want to help would actually pay attention to the very important message I'm trying to send them rather than complain about how rude or obnoxious I'm being.

Anywhere. A fool and his money are soon parted.

Sorry, this ones a scam also. There are a few threads on CR4 regarding this.

A very good example of "Do your homework first so you know what you are getting yourself into". Honestly, I think people would be better off if they did some research into these technologies before they ask other peoples opinions, that way they have some base to work with to see if an idea is good or not (rather than going off biased scam site, media and free energy websites).

At least you asked before blindly handing over your money.

NEVER in my entire life have I blindly turned over my money. Thanks for your concern.

I am looking for a good, honest, alternative fuel investment. Something near the ground floor. If you know of any I'd appreciate a heads up.

Thanks

You can contact artbyjoe or chtank on this forum. I'm assisting artbyjoe in developing his own sewage to methane gas reactor, while chtank is highly knowledgeable about alternative energy.

Hi Hantayo. I can consult you on that, give opinions/link websites. I'm starting a Corperate Intellegence business, much like TechDirt.

here http://www.smallbusinessbrief.com/forum/showthread.php?p=61843#post61843