Gasification process

Here are some links that will help you, the first one is a CR4 sponsored project: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~chtank/apix.htm.

For more information and links to gasifications, please go to this link, http://www.chtank.org/.

The biggest problem many scientists and even politicians like Al Gore have is educating the public who does not want to believe that their way of life can cause such a terrible future. The oil companies do not help either with so much misinformation being put out. It is much like the tobacco companies did when it was discovered that smoking will kill. They want to keep their hands in your pocket book.

"….biomass generated in any form of agriculture/ vegetation system would be converted into energy producing products, processed….."
This is not what this is about. Check-out these videos or go to Coskata website

They are talking about tires, plastics, etc…

Coskata website

The coskata process is an attempt to exploit the digestion of biomass. There are a number for such processes in the works, including work being done under the partnership with the USA Dept. of Energy. Anyone who is really concerned with helping would forget the patents and licensing and do like so many scientist are doing and giving it to the world. It is too bad that greed is so predominate in this world, especially in the USA, that it will allow for millions to die in order to line their pockets. Most of the bacteria that is being used or bio-engineered for bio-digestion is not patentable in the first place, it is a naturally occurring.

From what I have read, & from the information on the videos, they have a huge interest in sharing the information. And from what it looks like they understand that it's the only way it will be successful.

They are not trying to patent the bacteria, they are or have patented the process.

In viewing the videos you noted on You Tube it is mentioned that a synthesis gas is used to form the raw material for ethanol synthesis, and that the process takes a few days.

Seems that a modification of the Fischer-Tropsch process could produce ethanol from just about any syn gas. Why not take that route?

The Fischer-Tropsch process is a catalyzed chemical reaction in which carbon monoxide and hydrogen are converted into liquid hydrocarbons of various forms. Typical catalysts used are based on iron and cobalt. The principal purpose of this process is to produce a synthetic petroleum substitute, typically from coal, natural gas or biomass, for use as synthetic lubrication oil or as synthetic fuel. This synthetic fuel runs (so far) only in diesel engines; typical petroleum fuel-using engines ignite the fumes at much higher temperatures, therefore making this synthetic fuel unusable. However, the use of diesel is increasing[1] MORE>>>>>

The process makes syngas which in itself is a fuel. The reason for taking it to the next step is the desire to use a liquid fuel in the inherently polluting Internal Combustion engines that no one wants to give up. Whether making ethanol or using the Fischer-Tropf process for making diesel fuel it will still be used in a way that creates pollution.

Using it to power a clean External Combustion engine, a very efficient steam engine, is rejected as old tech. Something like the Cyclone engine, the Green Engine, the Tesla Turbine or even an updated Doble design would be good for generating the electricity to keep the batteries charged on a plug-in Electric Vehicle to give it range without very expensive batteries. Ask - beesidemeusa@yahoo.co.uk - about steam-electric hybrids.

Any process which can make fuel from vegetable trash and not from food is a step in the right direction. While we may not be able to replace oil-based fuels with any one alternative fuel we could have 20% using ethanol, 10% using vegetable oil, 10% using Hydrogen, 10% using electricity and 30% using fuel made from coal. That would reduce oil reduce oil use by 80%. Whatever the percentages of autos using any alternative fuel may be, it will reduce the use of oil. That would undercut the political clout of the Arabs and would stop providing them with the money to fight us. Even using coal to make fuel [Horrors, a FOSSIL fuel!] would take away from the power and influence of OPEC and the Arabs. Which is why they will do anything they can to stop it.

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You make a good point: [ The reason for taking it to the next step is the desire to use a liquid fuel in the inherently polluting Internal Combustion engines that no one wants to give up. Whether making ethanol or using the Fischer-Tropf process for making diesel fuel it will still be used in a way that creates pollution.]

I am going to look into that!

I also want to rent/buy the film: Who killed the electric car.

From what I remember an oil company bought out a patent for a battery that could go quite far, far more then the 40 miles that has been talked about. Maybe 300 miles! I may have heard that wrong . It's been a few years since I last seen it.

There will be a law some day that states: when a company buys a patent they have to use it or lose it.

There is a prototype Jeep which is a plug-in EV with an IC powered generator on board to extend its range beyond the 50 miles the batteries alone could give. A small cleaner steam engine would be even more efficient.

E-mail - beesidemeusa@yahoo.co.uk - and ask about steam-electric hybrids.