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generator spilling engine oil

02/27/2008 11:05 AM

I have a 100kva generator and i observed that engine oil is spilling out from some of the pipes ,filter etc . Please what could be the cause.

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02/27/2008 1:14 PM

Lack of maintenance, loose fittings?

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02/27/2008 1:48 PM

Faulty or perished seals, operating the generator upside down or on an angle.

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02/28/2008 1:08 AM

If you are running the Generator Below 30%, this can also occur on diesel powered generators..

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02/28/2008 1:20 AM

Hi Ropo. Your problem is a classic caused by the engine running on light or under load conditions. Diesels require about 60% load as a minimum ...(OK, don't all shoot me down on this figure, it does vary). What happens is that the cylinder walls do not get up to the design temperatures and the lube oil forms a lacquer in the surface. This the lets the piston rings slip over the nice smooth surface, rather than scrape over, and remove the minute oil particles from the cylinder walls. This is referred to as "glazing". It then lets some compression pressures leak past the rings thus pressuring the crankcase, and the result is that oil gets blown out of every little leaky fitting as well as the unburnt muck going out via the exhaust pipe ( I bet yours is a filthy oily exhaust outlet?).

How to fix... sorry to say its not cheap. You can try by increasing the load across all three phases, but once glazed badly, the correct procedure is to hone the cylinders and fit new rings. Now I know other contributers will tell you that you can simply chuck some powder down the inlet manifold, but this is a bit dodgy as it will probably add to the problem by gumming the rings in the grooves. The engine manufacturer, and only them, may be able to get a running in additive for the fuel supply, but its pretty powerful stuff (I know BP have some), and can wreck even a new engine in a matter of hours.

The proof that it's this is when you get someone to take the dipstick out whilst the engine is running, they will get hot dirty oil squirted all over them. It's always good for a laugh...providing you are not within range.

Of course if your pistons or rings are broken all the above holds true, except that you can delete the words "not cheap" above, and substitute "very expensive"

Hope this helps

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02/28/2008 4:12 AM

I rated your answer as good.

Did you not forget though that crankcase purging system, if blocked, can also cause the same effects?

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02/28/2008 6:38 AM

I've heard different minimum load from 30%-65% and the only trend is that the smaller the Diesel engine size..the higher the minimum load suggested.

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03/01/2008 2:22 PM

In times past when initial observation of wet stacking I have dropped crank case oil and replace with Rotella 15-40 for one service cycle at least. I haven't evaluated specifically why this procedure has cured the trouble only that it has consistently worked.

Of course oil change would not heal mechanical failures.

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03/03/2008 3:09 AM

good answer,

thank you.

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02/28/2008 5:49 AM

I once had this problem with a new Rolls marine engine, the Rolls engineer was called because they always insisted, he was scratching his head until I found that the painters had masked the swan neck breathers that were positioned out on the deck, these had flame traps fitted, and were completely masked off, masking removed end of story, it is obviously not the reason for your prob.but it could be something related, always go for the simple things first! then think about piston blow by, one can easily check this by doing a compression test anyway, or remove the dipstick, or oil filler cap.

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