Electromag Engine Block

an electric 'Wankel' rotative type motor that simulate same internal components but powered by an electrical fields .

That is just a regular electric motor....

If I understand correctly, you want to replace the pistons of an internal combustion engine with solenoids.

Without doing the math, my first thought is that you would be introducing unnecessary steps between the energy input and the work output. That is simply wasted energy.

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How Are Ya';

Alrigth, Good Good, I am checking out these WebSites and they do looking real interesting I'm sure I will have good feedback from it . Thanks a lot for advisement. I'm also looking hard for the possibility to figuring out about the possibility of a design to make a 'Pneumatic Engine' as well. I dont know yet but somewhere I read few years ago about a locomotive that was propulse with a 'Pneumatic Power Plant' but I didn't keep track of such information a the time. Who know's ! We have to come out with something real good eventually down the road. I'll keep looking around, Great site, Thank's.

Respectfuly;

MC

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Awesone, so we already have the tech to implement pneumatic motors at cars too. Will be great to keep development on these ideas from the past then. It's does look really good all that information, Im grateful to you for sending me out this material super informative. I do believe that eventually as an great form of energy AIR will be fundamental resources of works very soon. Good achievement for all these guys in the past. Definetly. Marvelous, I did knew about something like that that I read some where before but didn't remenber exactly where then and this become very valuable information to me now, Thanks, I'd too wondering why they didn't keep up improving such technology to next level ? Will be great to eventually see more on that around. Have a nice day and Thanks a lot !

Much Appreciated;

MC

Hi,

I just want to say, hooray!

"of course" your idea sounds wacky, BUT sometimes while playing around with "wacky" ideas, other WORKABLE ideas pop into your mind!

I "believe" or "hypothesize" that there would be an unacceptable energy loss from converting linear motion to reciprocating motion, then converting reciprocating motion to rotary motion, in order to drive the wheels.

'However,' I was researching a way to purchase or build a very simple, very inexpensive, but extremely safe "home" elevator, for elderly and handicapped people to use. Most people would rather install a system, than be forced to move from their homes.

While looking at that, I noticed that a group of students at Virginia Tech (? Not sure,) came up with a linear induction motor. There are no moving parts to the motor itself.

The 'motor' does drive a platform up or down.

The drive, the propulsion, is generated by an electrical field (with windings?) mounted to the platform (I think),

which attracts / repels another electrical field (windings?) which are mounted on the frame.

Anyway, it's a linear electric motor, and it was designed to be manufactured very inexpensively, and would require very little power.

So there may indeed be some kind of propulsion system / motor which uses a linear electrical field interacting against another, or a fixed magnet, that somehow has a greater efficiency than the present use of counter-acting electrical fields counter-rotating, to create power.

Keep your mind open!

tomfranpat

Rigth Rigth ! ... You guys got the picture for example simulating the reciprocal operation of an engines pistons probably we can substitute the pistons with some Big Strong Solenoids made for this purpose which will be using electromagnetic fields that bring them in a back and forward motion simulating pistons effect. Same gas engine configuration but electricaly operated. By the use of proximity sensors and sensors switching arrangement it will create like a computer motion operating controller for the Solenoids cycle back and forward timing cycles. Like an electronically computerized timing belt effect in order to magnetize these solenoids at the rigth timing on their travel back and forward cycles. 'Push-Pull' method perhaps to provide enougth strength for crankshaft strokes. I was thinking about the old 'Volkswagen' set-up due to it's mechanical advantages on the horizontaly piston assembly position, were gravity pull less during piston travel. Applying such design and adopt it in this 'Electromag Engine' concept using Solenoids type 'Pistons' we can probably be able to build a Non-Gas engine for near future cars and so on.

The other engine we can probably resemble and will have a better output due to it's mechanical advantage will be the 'Wankel' engine due to it rotary effect charasteristic similar some how to an electric motor stator and rotor components. Probably by applying same 'Wankel' engine set-up within it housing and rotor arrangement and make it to work with an electrical fields inputs instead of gas we can have an engine concept mutuation near future, I guess, don't bring to the bank yet due since this is just only a little brainstorming idea, thougth ! Who Know's, we will come out with something different down the road eventually, definetly... Good day all now and have some fun...

Respectfuly;

MC

What would the advantage be.

How could the efficiency be better than a multi phased rotary electric motor?

In a manner of speaking a switched reluctance motor is an electrical Wankel engine. You can imagine it as a series of solenoids around the periphery of the rotor attracting the armatures on the rotor just as they come within range of each solenoid. The position of the rotor is sensed by sensors and the electronics switches the appropriate solenoids in sequence to give more or less smooth rotary motion.

I can't think of a reciprocating piston engine analog for an electrical machine.

How are Ya' ... This I thougth will be with the properties of the 'Wankel' engine which rotate in an 8 shaped housing with a triangular shaped rotor with sligthly curved sides that orbits eccentrically around a fixed gear in within the housing. No reciprocating parts within this engine but more circulating motion instead. These are been made with 2 or 4 rotors so far, running on gas at this time. My idea or concept are to see if it is a way that we can use that same approach to re-build an electric prototype of such engine particularities an apply it to this concept. I just brainstorming do not bring it to the bank yet ! he he he ! Who know's....

The other idea with the reciprocating engine or pistons and cranksfaft engine as we knew it will be to sustitute it inners pistons with some really strongs 'Solenoids' in place within the block engine to simulate the reciprocating motion of the pistons instead. With so much electronic technology like the proximity and array of sensors wired up to a computer board or so we can probably be able to transform this gas engine into an pure electrical operated one - No gas- Who Know's ? Alrigth you all have a nice day and thanks a lot for your great feedbacks and the cool web sites recomended. Ahh he he he ! Yeah I will try no to oversaturate with so much knowledge in there --Thanks Pal's ...

Respectfuly;

MC

eguest: i submitted a basic layout(plan) for a plastic block "electromagnetic powered compressionless piston style engine". i got no reply,at all, but strangely enough a couple months later there was an interesting article in "MI" or "PS" about mazada, or some fun niponese auto maker, trying to develop a magnetic version of their rotary wankel engine!. ERDA's security was severely lacking!!; but it didn't matter, my idea was "off the shelf" components" and the power supply would be two "D flashlight batteries"(2-4,depending on mileage desired). what i didn't have, and still don'treally ,was enough cash to build a "production line/consept" demo model. to hopefully inspire the folks at GE etc. to put it into production.. i might revive it, since i am not the only one, with such "nutty"? ideas!..(very simple,hi hrspwr on minimal energy consumption motor) if you would like to confab/and maybe build this kind of zero emission engine, give me a buzz at chuckylov1@verizon.net... happy tinkering, chuck

Heyyy... Yes sir it.. You have the picture. By probably making out like an Electromagnetic type 'Wankel' someone may apply same magnetics fields charasteristics of the standard electric motor but with a lot more OUTPUT on RPM's and HP as well out of such puppy. Here the deal; 'Wankel' engine oscillating rotors mechanical advantages configuration but made up to run on electrical fields only. NON-GAS.

Motor housing and many others parts can be made on plastic to make it even ligther as well too. Transmission wise we can probably made use of same but will be possible to prototype with plastic as well. You know some racing cars now are making use of plastic on some of those engines too so someone may do parts for this purposes with same materials wherever possible and so on.

--One last thing, don't bring it to the bank yet, I'm just brainstorming a little here with the idea only...Ha he ha he..! -- But hey again --Who Know's ?

Allset pal's have a good one now I get to go now. We'll stay in touch then.. bye now..

Crank That Puppy Up...

MC