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adefikayo Participant Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 3	How can i be using ASME codes on the internet to do my design? 04/16/2008 11:50 AM
	I am a mechanical engineer by profession(Pupil engineer) and i need ASME code to be doing my design but i dont know how i can be tracking down these code on the internet.
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ozzb Guru Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Rosedale, Maryland USA Posts: 5197 Good Answers: 266	#1 Re: How can i be using ASME codes on the internet to do my design? 04/16/2008 12:34 PM
	www.asme.org __________________ Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving in a pretty, pristine body but rather to come sliding in sideways, all used up and exclaiming, "Wow, what a ride!"
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Abdel Halim Galala Guru Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cairo, Egypt Posts: 1733 Good Answers: 248	#2 Re: How can i be using ASME codes on the internet to do my design? 04/17/2008 12:11 AM
	To design a pressure vessel in accordance with ASME code, Section VIII, Division 1, ASME Boiler & Pressure Vessel Code VIII/Div.1 (ASME To select the standard flanges: ASME B16.5 Flanges Also, see : Thin-Walled Pressure Vessels & Topic 6.5 - Pressure Vessels There is a lot if you need and interest. __________________ It is better to be defeated on principles, than to win on lies!
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Abdel Halim Galala Guru Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cairo, Egypt Posts: 1733 Good Answers: 248	#3 In reply to #2 Re: How can i be using ASME codes on the internet to do my design? 04/17/2008 3:11 AM
	Very interesting site for types of ASME standard flanges and their dimensions: ASME Flanges, in PDF formats, used in ASME pressure vessels and piping. __________________ It is better to be defeated on principles, than to win on lies!
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flynnstar Commentator Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 77 Good Answers: 5	#8 In reply to #3 Re: How can i be using ASME codes on the internet to do my design? 04/17/2008 10:05 AM
	Nice information package- Thanks!
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adefikayo Participant Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 3	#4 In reply to #2 Re: How can i be using ASME codes on the internet to do my design? 04/17/2008 5:50 AM
	Thank you for your information .But i still need more information on how i can go about to design for a small retail outlet LPG plant.Thanks alot
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Abdel Halim Galala Guru Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cairo, Egypt Posts: 1733 Good Answers: 248	#5 In reply to #4 Re: How can i be using ASME codes on the internet to do my design? 04/17/2008 6:32 AM
	If that LPG retail outlet composed from a pipe and flange, the mechanical design of both in accordance to ASME shall be as following: 1. For pipe design , please see CR4 thread High Pressure Steam Pipe just as example. Note. This example is solved based on ASME B31.1 Power Piping, but for LPG piping you can use the ASME B31.3 Process Piping, or ASME B31.4 Hydrocarbon pipeline. 2. For selection of flange rating, please see the site ASME B16.5 Flanges __________________ It is better to be defeated on principles, than to win on lies!
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flynnstar Commentator Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 77 Good Answers: 5	#10 In reply to #2 Re: How can i be using ASME codes on the internet to do my design? 04/17/2008 12:04 PM
	Nice! Thanks again!
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Morgan 23 Power-User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: USA Soviet Socialist Dictatorship of Cook County& Illinois Posts: 207 Good Answers: 15	#6 Re: How can i be using ASME codes on the internet to do my design? 04/17/2008 7:13 AM
	You Probably can't find it on the internet, it is protected by copywrite. ASME sells the code books. Believe me thay are expensive. I suggest that you go to a technical library that may have the books or possibly a CD Rom with the code on it.
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Dan W Active Contributor Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Posts: 16 Good Answers: 1	#7 Re: How can i be using ASME codes on the internet to do my design? 04/17/2008 9:14 AM
	Adefikayo: As pointed out, the ASME Boiler and pressure Vessel Code parts are expensive, and not available (legally) without cost as they are all copyrighted documents. Additionally, I think that the assumption was that the application was a pressure vessel, but the pressure vessel code itself, ASME Section VIII, has threee seperate Divisions, each independent of the others, and sold seperately as well. If it is a Pwer Boiler that is the basis of the design (ASME Section I), then it would drag in by reference ASME B31.1 (one part of the piping codes). In any case the material standards (ASME Section II - Parts A, B, C, D - all seperate volumes) would be a necessary refrence source, at least part D, which is where the stress values permitted for design are located. Then there are the welding and brazing qualification requirements (ASME Section IX), and the Non Desrtructive Examination requirements (ASME Section V). In all, I would say that unless this is being approached as an exercise, the project should be approached with cation, as there are a large number of potential pitfalls. __________________ "We have met the enemy, and he am us" - Pogo
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pipewelder Guru Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: North Georgia, USA Posts: 671 Good Answers: 33	#9 Re: How can i be using ASME codes on the internet to do my design? 04/17/2008 11:00 AM
	I purchase my ASME books every 3 years and I get the new addendum every year. Although I still get my books in hard copy you can get them in electronic from the ASME site. I gave nearly $7,000.00 for my last set with new binders. You can get allot of info from the many commercial sites that sell different ASME rated products but for designing purposes I think you will have to pay for it. You may only need Sec. II, Sec. VIII, Sec. IX and B31.3 for your design though and not the 15 different books that I buy for my work. pipewelder __________________ pipewelder
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EXAMPLE for Design Calculations of Pressure Vessel (Shell)	Page : 8 of 110
According to ASME Code, Section VIII, Division 1, 2004 Edition, Addenda 2006	Sheet : 1 of 4
Designed by : Eng. Abdel Halim Galala, Design General Manager	REV. : 1
Project : Design & Procurement of ASME Pressure Vessel	Date : 6.10.2006
Job Name : Demineralization Plant	Job No. : 7402-33
Serial No. : 7402-33-U--2003 Dwg. No. : 7402-33-1, Rev. 1	Client : APRC
Vessel : Reactor Item No. : 1-D-1 Capacity : 21 M3	Type : Horizontal
H. Cylindrical Shell Thickness Under Internal Pressure [UG-27(c)]
Shell material, Killed Carbon Steel	ASME SA515 Grade 60
Shell material Specifications [Table 1A, Suppart 1, ASME Sec. II, Part D]
P-No.	1
Group No.	2
External Pressure Chart No.	CS-2
Vessel ID	102.7559	INCH	2610	MM
Shell ID	102.7559	INCH	2610	MM
Shell Inside Radius, R	51.37795	INCH	1305	MM
Shell length from Tangent-to-Tangent (T/T), L	82.677	INCH	2100	MM
Max. Design Temperature	572	^oF	300	^oC
Min. Design Metal Temperature, MDMT	32	^oF	0	^oC
Max. Operating Temperature	572	^oF	300	^oC
Operating Pressure	312.5	PSIG	22	KG/CM ²G
Max. Internal Design Pressure	454.545	PSIG	32	KG/CM ²G
External Design Pressure (Full Vacuum)	15	PSIG	1.056	KG/CM ²G
Shell Inside Diameter,D	102.756	INCH	2610	MM
Shell Inside Radius,R	51.378	INCH	1305	MM
Static Head = Vessel Diameter	2.61	M
Static Head Pressure (water head x sp. gr. 1.0)	3.707	PSIG	0.261	KG/CM ²G
Internal Design Pressure, P (MAWP)	458.253	PSIG	32.261	KG/CM ²G
Max. Allowable Stress @ Design Temp.(300 ^oC),S	16596	PSIG	1168.358	KG/CM ²G
Max. Allowable Stress @ Test Temp.(100 ^oC), St	17100	PSIG	1203.84	KG/CM ²G
[Table 1A, SubPart 1, ASME Sec. II, Part D]
Hydrostatic Test Pressure, P _h = 1.3 x MAWP x (St/S) [UG-99(b)]	613.821	PSIG	43.213	KG/CM ²G
Corrosion Allowance, C [UG-25]	0.079	INCH	2	MM
Joint Efficiency, E [TABLE UW-12]	1
[Full Radiography], [Table UCS-57]
Value of 0.385 SE [UG-27(c)(1)]	161.273	PSIG	11.35362	KG/CM ²G
Since P does not exceed 0.385 SE, Use Thin Wall Equation:
[1] Min. Wall Thickness for Longitudinal Joints,
t₁= PR / (SE - 0.6P) [UG-27(c)(1)]	1.443	INCH	36.652	MM
Value of 1.25 SE [UG-27(c)(1)]	523.6138	PSIG	36.86241	KG/CM ²G
Since P does not exceed 1.25 SE, Use Thin Wall Equation:
[2] Min. Wall Thickness for Circumferential Joints,
t₂= PR / (2SE + 0.4P) [UG-27(c)(2)]	0.705	INCH	17.907	MM
The min. wall thickness shall be the greater of t1 or t2	1.443	INCH	36.652	MM
By Adding Corrosion Allowance to Wall Tickness, t	1.443	INCH	36.652	MM
Use Thickness of Construction,t (Adopted thickness)	1.457	INCH	37	MM
Corroded Thickness = Adopted thk. - corrosion allowance	1.378	INCH	35	MM

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Abdel Halim Galala Guru Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cairo, Egypt Posts: 1733 Good Answers: 248	#12 In reply to #11 Re: How can i be using ASME codes on the internet to do my design? 04/17/2008 6:02 PM
	Sorry, there is a correction: Material ASME SA515 Grade 60 is Group No. 1 (not 2). __________________ It is better to be defeated on principles, than to win on lies!
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ssraja Active Contributor Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 10	#13 In reply to #11 Re: How can i be using ASME codes on the internet to do my design? 03/10/2009 9:33 AM
	Hi... iam working on pressure vessel design and analysis.. i wanted to know allowable stress of SA420M GR WPL6 material with compliance with UG-23 Thanks RAJA
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Anonymous Poster #1	#14 In reply to #11 Re: How can i be using ASME codes on the internet to do my design? 02/28/2013 2:17 AM
	Useful info.
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