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Pressure gauge filled with extra glycerin for horizontal mounting

05/19/2008 1:10 PM

I have to fill several pressure gauges for horizontal mounting with extra gliceryn, (standard vertical mounting gauges positioned in horizontal don't have enough glycerin to protect the pointer).

My question now ?? Is there any future functional pressure gauge trouble releated to this kind of operations.

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Re: Pressure gauge filled with extra glycerin for horizontal mounting

05/19/2008 2:14 PM

The glycerin in a pressure gauge is not there to protect the needle - it's there to dampen needle bounce from rapid pressure fluctuations and make the gauge easier to read. Glycerin is also non-compressible - adding more to a gauge will reduce the pocket of compressible air that is required for the glycerin to displace at high pressures. Removing that bubble could cause the housing to split. Install the gauge horizontally without any modifications - you'll be fine.

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Re: Pressure gauge filled with extra glycerin for horizontal mounting

05/19/2008 3:35 PM

Not often but there are guests that are right. Here boys I found one.

GA for you even though it does not count up.

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Re: Pressure gauge filled with extra glycerin for horizontal mounting

05/20/2008 7:46 AM

Guest is correct. Now for the rest of the story. The compressible air bubble is there to accomodate the expansion of the fluid with temperature. Fluid expansion with increasing temperature, is greater than the volume expansion of the container that holds it. This can cause pressure levels that distort or rupture the container. An internal gas bubble is a low cost method of dealing with this, but there are others such as a bellow or a diaphragm.

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05/20/2008 9:37 AM

I agree with guest and I give him a GA. We use allot of glycerin filled gauges in our mill in just about all positions and never had a problem.

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Re: Pressure gauge filled with extra glycerin for horizontal mounting

05/20/2008 10:16 AM

Thanks for the fast reply, the problem infact is that in horizontal mounting the needle is moving with high vibration, because no glycerin is available to slow-down the run (all the gliceryn fall down in the bottom of the gauge box) I have to rise his level with an extra fill.

And the bad news is that the customer doesn't allow me to insert a gauge isolators :(

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05/20/2008 10:28 AM

If an isolator is not permitted, how about a snubber. A snubber is a restriction that goes in-line with the gauge and prevents rapid changes in pressure. You must determine whether the needle fluctuation is caused by ambient vibration or from pressure changes. If your problem is ambient vibration, you might try shock mounting the gauge.

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05/20/2008 12:37 PM

If at all possible, why not fit the gauge remotely so that correct orientation is possible?

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